US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

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Only the economically ignorant will be celebrating this change of position by the US....which is why the progressive wing of the Dem party is overwhelmed with joy at this development.

The keyword to think about is 'incentives' and how this will change when governments can unilaterally decide which patents count and which do not.

By the way, there are no idle vaccine manufacturing facilities that are just waiting for the IP waiver to start producing: either they don't have the raw materials, the equipment, or technical expertise. Who's going to pay for quality and with what money?

We saw the disaster when a non-professional subcontractor ruined 15 million J&J doses and god only knows how many millions of Oxford doses by mixing them up.
 

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You do know this thing nukes all intellectual property protections on anything remotely relating to covid-19.

I doubt that, but it will be good if it happens, IP laws are ridiculously outdated and the reason why we have these corporate monopolies.
 

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Only the economically ignorant will be celebrating this change of position by the US....which is why the progressive wing of the Dem party is overwhelmed with joy at this development.

The keyword to think about is 'incentives' and how this will change when governments can unilaterally decide which patents count and which do not.

By the way, there are no idle vaccine manufacturing facilities that are just waiting for the IP waiver to start producing: either they don't have the raw materials, the equipment, or technical expertise. Who's going to pay for quality and with what money?

We saw the disaster when a non-professional subcontractor ruined 15 million J&J doses and god only knows how many millions of Oxford doses by mixing them up.
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Only the economically ignorant will be celebrating this change of position by the US....which is why the progressive wing of the Dem party is overwhelmed with joy at this development.

The keyword to think about is 'incentives' and how this will change when governments can unilaterally decide which patents count and which do not.

By the way, there are no idle vaccine manufacturing facilities that are just waiting for the IP waiver to start producing: either they don't have the raw materials, the equipment, or technical expertise. Who's going to pay for quality and with what money?

We saw the disaster when a non-professional subcontractor ruined 15 million J&J doses and god only knows how many millions of Oxford doses by mixing them up.

Well let's see what happens now. The WTO has backed this move, so it's obviously not just supported by the 'economically ignorant'. The Covid pandemic is an extraordinary circumstance that affects literally millions of human lives, and claiming that it's going to trigger a new wave of IP loosening is just misguided. Perhaps you're right and third world countries don't have the manufacturing capacity to produce their own vaccines, but it's not what they're saying.
 

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They already produced 1 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine 2 months ago, Chris...

It's a problem of scale/capacity, not capability.


I'm sorry, how is she disagreeing with me? I said the same thing a few posts before this...

And address Moderna saying they won't enforce their IP on this, please. It directly contradicts your claim.
Aren't those 1 million the ones that came from India though?

At the moment, the 1 million AstraZeneca vials, which will not be used in South Africa, are still in storage ahead of being shipped to other countries.
 
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Well let's see what happens now. The WTO has backed this move, so it's obviously not just supported by the 'economically ignorant'. The Covid pandemic is an extraordinary circumstance that affects literally millions of human lives, and claiming that it's going to trigger a new wave of IP loosening is just misguided. Perhaps you're right and third world countries don't have the manufacturing capacity to produce their own vaccines, but it's not what they're saying.

At the moment the third world countries are better at managing this pandemic than the west, because they have experience with epidemics.
 
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Heh so we're back to the magical fairy-tale land where you are better at math.

Back to the original post. I'll dumb it down for you...

1) Voting against something does not mean you are pro what the bill opposes. Get that easy point? Good. Great. So @Cerberus 's claim is completely bunk.
2) Next when voting on a amendment to prevent systemic racism in colleges no Democrat voted in favour of it. (refer to point 1)

So either they are racist for not endorsing it, there is some flaw in the amendment or they're "just following orders".

Here's the math part for you (in line with your level). 49 > 1.
So using Cerb's initial claim, which some approved of, they are all racists.

Now perhaps the italics remark makes sense no?
I think you added the wrong person here. Cerebus not Cerberus. Kindly keep your opinion pointed at the correct person.
 
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