US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

[Brenden_E]

If you give people free money to sit at home it doesn't take big brainpower to deduce they will sit at home and not work. This is a recipe for disaster in the making.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I prefer the experiences of people actually making the hiring decisions than researchers using massive datasets and then imposing their explanation (s) from their analysis -- remember their conclusions are based on the results they get...perhaps they are using bad data or applying incorrect economic models?

It just doesn't chime with me that unemployment is still about 2.5 percentage points higher than Trump's lowest unemployment rate (3.5 percent) and yet businesses are reporting that they are struggling to find staff. There must be something going on. When unemployment is high-ish, people should be desperate to get any job offered to them!

Let's remember it was forecast that 1 million jobs would be created in April. Official numbers were barely over 20 percent of that. Atrocious!

Oh look, a piece that actually talks to the workers.

‘We Want to Work, But We Also Want to Be Treated Like Human Beings’

Amid reports of a restaurant industry "labor shortage," employees say all they really want are wages that makes the risk worth it

www.eater.com

 

[Brenden_E]

"The job report shows no evidence that Americans are being paid to stay at home", says Biden. But that's exactly what the jobs report showed. It's like a comedy sketch.

Politicians say whatever with no need for correlation to reality. When the public has been indoctrinated with mantras like men are women it's not hard to make them believe smaller lies.

 

[cerebus]

I prefer the experiences of people actually making the hiring decisions than researchers using massive datasets and then imposing their explanation (s) from their analysis -- remember their conclusions are based on the results they get...perhaps they are using bad data or applying incorrect economic models?

It just doesn't chime with me that unemployment is still about 2.5 percentage points higher than Trump's lowest unemployment rate (3.5 percent) and yet businesses are reporting that they are struggling to find staff. There must be something going on. When unemployment is high-ish, people should be desperate to get any job offered to them!

Let's remember it was forecast that 1 million jobs would be created in April. Official numbers were barely over 20 percent of that. Atrocious!

Yes something is going on. I already linked to a WP article that describes what's happening in the workforce pretty well, as does the article you posted about Chipotle choosing to instate a $15 minimum wage.

You aren't going to see workers flocking back to demeaning jobs that don't pay enough to live on. It's not a bad thing at all. Companies need to make the effort to inventivize people to work for them or they'll find that their business model just doesn't work.

 

[buka001]

Oh look, a piece that actually talks to the workers.

‘We Want to Work, But We Also Want to Be Treated Like Human Beings’

Amid reports of a restaurant industry "labor shortage," employees say all they really want are wages that makes the risk worth it

www.eater.com

The pandemic showed that fast food workers are exploited and mistreated by customers.

Line cooks in the USA suffered one of the highest COVID rates.

Line cooks have the highest risk of dying during pandemic, plus other riskiest jobs: study

Line cooks had a 60% increase in mortality associated with the pandemic, compared to a 22% increase overall.

www.cnbc.com

Fast food workers are fed up.

 

[greg0205]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1391931893013229568

Party of the working class advance Carlyle Group CEO, Harvard grad, nett worth over $250 million candidate for VA Governor.

 

[surface]

Oh look, a piece that actually talks to the workers.

‘We Want to Work, But We Also Want to Be Treated Like Human Beings’

Amid reports of a restaurant industry "labor shortage," employees say all they really want are wages that makes the risk worth it

www.eater.com

Has anyone made intellectual argument yet that burger will cost 30 dollars if wages are increased by 5 dollars?

 

[cerebus]

Has anyone made intellectual argument yet that burger will cost 30 dollars if wages are increased by 5 dollars?

They tried to make the argument that employers will just use robots if workers don't want to accept indentured servitude

 

[greg0205]

Yes something is going on. I already linked to a WP article that describes what's happening in the workforce pretty well, as does the article you posted about Chipotle choosing to instate a $15 minimum wage.

You aren't going to see workers flocking back to demeaning jobs that don't pay enough to live on. It's not a bad thing at all. Companies need to make the effort to inventivize people to work for them or they'll find that their business model just doesn't work.

Imagine dying on the stimulus is the problem, not poverty wages hill.

 

[AlmightyBender]

If you give people free money to sit at home it doesn't take big brainpower to deduce they will sit at home and not work. This is a recipe for disaster in the making.

Working for wages too low to live from is also a recipe for disaster...

 

[Gordon_R]

Story resurfaces from 2020: https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/threads/us-election-2020.1067336/post-25418709

Ahmaud Arbery: US state of Georgia abolishes citizen's arrest law

Georgia becomes the first US state to make the move, which was spurred by a black man's shooting.

www.bbc.com

 

[C4Cat]

If you give people free money to sit at home it doesn't take big brainpower to deduce they will sit at home and not work. This is a recipe for disaster in the making.

 

[konfab]

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Don't you worry your precious progressive head on this. Soon the US won't have any of those evil poverty exploiters left.

 

[surface]

Working for wages too low to live from is also a recipe for disaster...

I personally will be shattered if the bezos type people will lose half a billion dollars. I mean how will he put bread on his table if wages are increased by 5 dollar to thousands?

 

[Brenden_E]

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They are printing money to pay people to sit at home, cupcake. This is not sustainable. An enormous pawpaw is heading towards the fan.

 

[greg0205]

They are printing money to pay people to sit at home, cupcake. This is not sustainable. An enormous pawpaw is heading towards the fan.

I'd say something about raising corporate taxes as well as taxes on folks earning more than $400k but I just don't have the time for, 'Well, ackshually, trickle-down has never worked, but THIS time it'll be different'.

 

[AlmightyBender]

I'd say something about raising corporate taxes as well as taxes on folks earning more than $400k but I just don't have the time for, 'Well, ackshually, trickle-down has never worked, but THIS time it'll be different'.

This. Low taxes for the wealthy is equally as unsustainable as low wages for the poor and unemployment benefits higher than minimum wage. I'm not holding my breath for our colleagues on the other side of the isle to acknowledge this reality.

 

[cerebus]

They are printing money to pay people to sit at home, cupcake. This is not sustainable. An enormous pawpaw is heading towards the fan.

It's obviously not sustainable, it was never meant to be. That's why it's a stimulus. But what the whole pandemic situation did accomplish was giving people a bit of space and context to figure out that working for slave wages in miserable conditions isn't sustainable either and they want something different with their lives. Power to them.

 

[Brenden_E]

I'd say something about raising corporate taxes as well as taxes on folks earning more than $400k but I just don't have the time for, 'Well, ackshually, trickle-down has never worked, but THIS time it'll be different'.

Raising taxes has almost universally resulted in lower economic growth and making everyone poorer. You don't tax people into prosperity, doesn't work. Unless you have a specific argument for why "this time it'll be different" as you say.

 

[Brenden_E]

It's obviously not sustainable, it was never meant to be. That's why it's a stimulus. But what the whole pandemic situation did accomplish was giving people a bit of space and context to figure out that working for slave wages in miserable conditions isn't sustainable either and they want something different with their lives. Power to them.

Sitting at home watching Netflix is of course more fun than flipping burgers. It's called work for a reason.