US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

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AlmightyBender

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There are people who do come from a bad background. Having a job and earning an income for oneself is the best way to get out of that situation.

Despite the pure intentions of our communist friends in this thread, the effects of minimum wage simply makes everyone who cannot provide more than the minimum wage's worth of value to an employer unemployed. This is why minimum wages were strongly pushed by other racists in history:


https://iea.org.uk/blog/how-minimum-wages-encourage-discrimination
I'd really like it if society and business owners CHOSE out of their own free will to treat low wage employees with dignity by paying a LIVING wage. But they don't except in a few European counties. If they did I would shut the fudge up immediately. But they don't. So here we are.
 
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You aren't making a very good case for why anyone would want to continue flipping burgers for a living

That's precisely my point - you shouldn't do it for an actual living. Burger flipping should be for high-school and university students. If you're 30 and a burger flipper then that probably says something about you rather than the nebulous "system".
 

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The Republican Party seems to have no direction. I don't understand their fealty to a one-term president with unprecedented low job approval ratings who lost the popular vote twice and under whose leadership they lost both the House and Senate.
Agree with this assessment completely. It's like they've completed digging their own grave now and they not happy with that so they building a diving board to get in. :X3:
 

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That's precisely my point - you shouldn't do it for an actual living. Burger flipping should be for high-school and university students. If you're 30 and a burger flipper then that probably says something about you rather than the nebulous "system".
This is the most naive and privileged take I've seen on an issue in years. I'm actually stunned.
 

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That's precisely my point - you shouldn't do it for an actual living. If you're 30 and a burger flipper then that probably says something about you rather than the nebulous "system".

So what's the problem? Maybe the market is just dumping a bunch of useless jobs and blaming the stimulus is misguided.
 

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That's precisely my point - you shouldn't do it for an actual living. Burger flipping should be for high-school and university students. If you're 30 and a burger flipper then that probably says something about you rather than the nebulous "system".
It's easier to blame the system than for a person to take personal responsibility. If someone manages to flip burgers for 10 years, and still doesn't upskill themselves to do something better, or get recognized in the organization and moved up the ranks, the issue lies with the person.

Many people aren't industrious. It's life. They should not and cannot expect the same lifestyle as someone killing it 24/7 for 15 years.
 

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It's easier to blame the system than for a person to take personal responsibility. If someone manages to flip burgers for 10 years, and still doesn't upskill themselves to do something better, or get recognized in the organization and moved up the ranks, the issue lies with the person.

Many people aren't industrious. It's life. They should not and cannot expect the same lifestyle as someone killing it 24/7 for 15 years.

How do you up skill when you earn a very little amount and don't have the resources to up skill?
 
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So what's the problem? Maybe the market is just dumping a bunch of useless jobs and blaming the stimulus is misguided.
I wouldn't say they are useless - they do have a function... it's just that they are low-skilled and almost the entire population of the world can do them, that's why they are low-wage. It can serve as a useful introduction into the world of work for youngsters.

This is the most naive and privileged take I've seen on an issue in years. I'm actually stunned.

How is this a "privileged" take? The hospitality industry is well-known to skew towards the younger age groups and in particular, the entry-level jobs I'm thinking about (obviously management is a different story). You really think it's right to be 30 and flipping burgers? Lordy, such ambition. :rolleyes:
 
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Oh, look... A Republican governor ending federal unemployment benefits in MI so his 1% friends and donors can keep paying Mississippians slave wages.


Periodic reminder: Tate's MI is ranked 3rd most dependent on Federal funding, 43rd in education, dead last in poverty rate, and 51st in health system performance.

Yes, you read that 51st right... Worse than every other state *and* DC.
 
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Oh, look... A Republican governor ending federal unemployment benefits in MI so his 1% friends and donors can keep paying Mississippians slave wages.


Periodic reminder: Tate's MI is ranked 3rd most dependent on Federal funding, 43rd in education, dead last in poverty rate, and 51st in health system performance.

Yes, you read that 51st right... Worse than every other state *and* DC.
Well, this provides what economists call a natural experiment. We will now be able to determine what effect this withdrawal has on employment in MS and compare it to states who kept it.
 

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I wouldn't say they are useless - they do have a function... it's just that they are low-skilled and almost the entire population of the world can do them, that's why they are low-wage. It can serve as a useful introduction into the world of work for youngsters.

Nobody suggested that the jobs should be middle class wage - but a minimum wage should at least be liveable, no? Otherwise you're excluding anyone who needs to survive from that kind of job, which makes it rather churlish to complain when people don't line up for slave wages.
 

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Oh, look... A Republican governor ending federal unemployment benefits in MI so his 1% friends and donors can keep paying Mississippians slave wages.


Periodic reminder: Tate's MI is ranked 3rd most dependent on Federal funding, 43rd in education, dead last in poverty rate, and 51st in health system performance.

Yes, you read that 51st right... Worse than every other state *and* DC.
And at 25.1% vaccinated they are last in terms of percentage of population vaccinated.

So surprised.
 
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Benefits more than twice the minimum wage and yet I'm told these additional benefits have little do with current labour market puzzle... :X3:

Wait even "labour activists" (probably people who said on Twitter all day bemoaning capitalism) agree with me:

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Then again, liberal groups think you can raise wages and that will have little effect on profitability etc. (note: not everyone in the hospitality industry is McDonalds. Many small restaurant owners and the like!). Not everyone has access to you know, the government chequebook.

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@greg0205 - I see South Carolina will also be ending the top up benefits early. So now two states which we can compare to other states...

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Beautiful last paragraph (just don't bring your awful voting habits along with you!)

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