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WASHINGTON -- A federal law enforcement officer was arrested carrying a gun at Saturday’s rally at the U.S. Capitol billed to support the suspects charged in January’s insurrection but will not be prosecuted.

The 27-year-old New Jersey man is an officer with U.S. Customs and Border Protection. He was arrested by Capitol Police for illegally possessing a gun on the grounds of the Capitol after people in the crowd reported seeing him with a handgun and notified nearby officers.

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A spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington said prosecutors were “not moving forward with charges” but did not provide additional information about the decision.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/federal-officer-arrested-capitol-rally-charged-80130357



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It's not arbitrary, that's when the fetus has an actual heart. You can only hear a heartbeat without the use of an ultrasound at around 20 weeks

The heart hasn't formed yet at 6 weeks. What you're hearing at that point is not a beating heart and the "beat" isn't actually audible without an ultrasound. If you used a stethoscope you would not hear anything. What you are picking up at 6 weeks is an electrically-induced flutter of a part of the fetal tissue that might eventually become a heart as the embryo develops. That's far from a sure thing at 6 weeks.

Hearing the heartbeat with a stethoscope also hugely depends on the position of the foetus. (I pretty much spent every week of my wife's pregnancy trying to find it, when I asked the doctor about it, she said the baby was in a position where it is very difficult to hear).

But alas, your description of what a foetal heart is, isn't quite correct:

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It starts to be able to pump blood at 3 weeks, which means that it is a heart for all intents and purposes.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3279166/
 

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As Christian said, "purely academic". If that was indeed the intended plan then you'd have to argue that the J6 riot saved democracy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You don't simultaneously plan a "legalese coup" and an riot that disrupts said coup.

Why do you think they're chanting 'hang Mike Pence'? It's because Mike Pence was the key to the whole coup plan, and he wouldn't cooperate with it. Not that Pence is some kind of democratic hero either


So intent was Pence on being Trump’s loyal second-in-command — and potential successor — that he asked confidants if there were ways he could accede to Trump’s demands and avoid certifying the results of the election on Jan. 6. In late December, the authors reveal, Pence called Dan Quayle, a former vice president and fellow Indiana Republican, for advice.
Quayle was adamant, according to the authors. “Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away,” he said.
But Pence pressed him, the authors write, asking if there were any grounds to pause the certification because of ongoing legal challenges. Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed, according to the book.
 

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Why do you think they're chanting 'hang Mike Pence'? It's because Mike Pence was the key to the whole coup plan, and he wouldn't cooperate with it. Not that Pence is some kind of democratic hero either


So intent was Pence on being Trump’s loyal second-in-command — and potential successor — that he asked confidants if there were ways he could accede to Trump’s demands and avoid certifying the results of the election on Jan. 6. In late December, the authors reveal, Pence called Dan Quayle, a former vice president and fellow Indiana Republican, for advice.
Quayle was adamant, according to the authors. “Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away,” he said.
But Pence pressed him, the authors write, asking if there were any grounds to pause the certification because of ongoing legal challenges. Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed, according to the book.
It seems Trump wanted MP to take the fall (either way) for this decision. Expected from a cowardly bone spurs guy.
 

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As Christian said, "purely academic". If that was indeed the intended plan then you'd have to argue that the J6 riot saved democracy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You don't simultaneously plan a "legalese coup" and an riot that disrupts said coup.

Anyway glad to see the news is back to obsessing over this and relatively silent on the border issue. Besides falsely claiming that the migrants are being hit with whips.
Aww bless, you sweet summer child, for your naivety shields you well.

Ask yourself, why do you think the Trump family were so exhubarently dancing to "Gloria", as Congress began gathering that morning? Why were they so upbeat?

What did they think was going to happen and more importantly, why did they think something was going to happen, that had them in such a celebratory mood?

Anyway, while you make up some justification for that, which suits your narrative that Jan 6 was not a dangerously pivotal moment in US history, consider the actions of Mike Pence leading up to the event.

The fact that Dan Quayle rose from the ashes of obscurity and had impact on the sanctity of American democracy is laughable, if it were not so ominously dangerous.

Why did he consult with others to find a way to certify Trump?

What does all of this say about the GOP and the future direction of American politics, that Trump and his gaggle of sycophants has charted?

Authoritarianism is in? Democracy out?

While you handwave all of this away, did you ever pause through all of this and wonder why your bias pushed you to support that authoritarianism?
 

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Your absolute dedication to staying in-character as a drooling, booger picking, shoes on the wrong foot wearing, cork on your fork so you don't hurt yourself, gu-gu-gu-gud brain, simple Jack character, just to troll this thread is remarkable, Kieppie.

"If that was indeed the intended plan then you'd have to argue that the J6 riot saved democracy"

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Two minutes later...

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"You don't simultaneously plan a "legalese coup" and an riot that disrupts said coup."

Unless you're not certain the linchpin of your plan will commit to your coup... Then you have an insurrection as a back-up plan to usurp power, and exact revenge on that linchpin for good measure.


How are you so bad at this, simple Jack?
Keep believing in your fantasy insurrection Greggy. It's funny to watch. :popcorn:
 

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There has been a steady rise in obesity rates in the US over the last 10+ years among all age groups. Among the 2-19 age group it was 18% in 2016, for example. The increase may have been a bit bigger over the pandemic, compared to the increases of previous years, but the trend is a steady rise in obesity. The problem with obesity in the US is much larger than just the pandemic and lockdowns and rates will continue to increase after the pandemic if more far reaching lifestyle changes are not implemented by people in general.

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Yes the US has long had a fat problem, which is why they focused on the rate of change not the actual percentage.

To say this study looked at pandemic gains while ignoring the fact that it was the lockdowns and the policies around it that caused children to be less active than normal is being dishonest. Add to this parents will more likely treat their children to try and make up for the horrible situation which compounds it with a more unhealthy diet.

Eventually there will be a study about the depression effects of it which also killed more children than Covid. I don't know why people are so religiously obsessed with protecting the sanctity of lockdowns by trying to downplay any real concern. Talk about ignoring lessons learnt.
 

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Why do you think they're chanting 'hang Mike Pence'? It's because Mike Pence was the key to the whole coup plan, and he wouldn't cooperate with it. Not that Pence is some kind of democratic hero either


So intent was Pence on being Trump’s loyal second-in-command — and potential successor — that he asked confidants if there were ways he could accede to Trump’s demands and avoid certifying the results of the election on Jan. 6. In late December, the authors reveal, Pence called Dan Quayle, a former vice president and fellow Indiana Republican, for advice.
Quayle was adamant, according to the authors. “Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away,” he said.
But Pence pressed him, the authors write, asking if there were any grounds to pause the certification because of ongoing legal challenges. Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed, according to the book.

Aww bless, you sweet summer child, for your naivety shields you well.

Ask yourself, why do you think the Trump family were so exhubarently dancing to "Gloria", as Congress began gathering that morning? Why were they so upbeat?

What did they think was going to happen and more importantly, why did they think something was going to happen, that had them in such a celebratory mood?

Anyway, while you make up some justification for that, which suits your narrative that Jan 6 was not a dangerously pivotal moment in US history, consider the actions of Mike Pence leading up to the event.

The fact that Dan Quayle rose from the ashes of obscurity and had impact on the sanctity of American democracy is laughable, if it were not so ominously dangerous.

Why did he consult with others to find a way to certify Trump?

What does all of this say about the GOP and the future direction of American politics, that Trump and his gaggle of sycophants has charted?

Authoritarianism is in? Democracy out?

While you handwave all of this away, did you ever pause through all of this and wonder why your bias pushed you to support that authoritarianism?

Told you this was evergreen...
The oke literally gaslights everything and anything. Literally. It is getting very weird.
The topic and the content doesn't even matter. Even when presented with facts and data. Doesn't matter.
It's like he's running a script. Weird.
 

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Aww bless, you sweet summer child, for your naivety shields you well.

Ask yourself, why do you think the Trump family were so exhubarently dancing to "Gloria", as Congress began gathering that morning? Why were they so upbeat?

What did they think was going to happen and more importantly, why did they think something was going to happen, that had them in such a celebratory mood?

Anyway, while you make up some justification for that, which suits your narrative that Jan 6 was not a dangerously pivotal moment in US history, consider the actions of Mike Pence leading up to the event.

The fact that Dan Quayle rose from the ashes of obscurity and had impact on the sanctity of American democracy is laughable, if it were not so ominously dangerous.

Why did he consult with others to find a way to certify Trump?

What does all of this say about the GOP and the future direction of American politics, that Trump and his gaggle of sycophants has charted?

Authoritarianism is in? Democracy out?

While you handwave all of this away, did you ever pause through all of this and wonder why your bias pushed you to support that authoritarianism?
What you fail to remember is that this wasn't some secret plan. It was already well known that this double vote count is the last avenue they'd pursue after all those lawsuits. These things were the reason I decided "F' it this is stupid, I'm out".

Then when I eventually come back a riot making up a very small part of the rally is being called an insurrection because it sounds more ominous.

Oh yes authoritarianism is definitely on the rise from both sides, although it is more pronounced coming from the far left.
I mentioned before the differences and similarities in LWA and RWA. Yet we have people on this very thread that believe LWA does not exist.
So this bias seems to be quite prevalent here.
 

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Kieppie doesn't care about obesity, or kids... He cares about zygotes in a host body's incubation chamber.

If he really cared about obese kids, he'd have wailed on this...


But he didn't.
How do you know I didn't wail on it? Were you spying through the window?
Greg YOU don't care for children unless it aligns with your politics.
That part is clear by calling a baby a fetus or a zygote a parasite to justify it's murder.
 

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Yes the US has long had a fat problem, which is why they focused on the rate of change not the actual percentage.

To say this study looked at pandemic gains while ignoring the fact that it was the lockdowns and the policies around it that caused children to be less active than normal is being dishonest. Add to this parents will more likely treat their children to try and make up for the horrible situation which compounds it with a more unhealthy diet.

Eventually there will be a study about the depression effects of it which also killed more children than Covid. I don't know why people are so religiously obsessed with protecting the sanctity of lockdowns by trying to downplay any real concern. Talk about ignoring lessons learnt.
I guess a study of how many children would have died, would there not have been a lockdown would not be looked at by you.
 

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How do you know I didn't wail on it? Were you spying through the window?
Greg YOU don't care for children unless it aligns with your politics.
That part is clear by calling a baby a fetus or a zygote a parasite to justify it's murder.
You didn't say anything here on myBB
 

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The oke literally gaslights everything and anything. Literally. It is getting very weird.
The topic and the content doesn't even matter. Even when presented with facts and data. Doesn't matter.
It's like he's running a script. Weird.
I'm not gaslighting anything. I'm giving a counter opinion based on facts.
It's strange that only certain "facts" are accepted by you?
So even your word gaslighting is wrong given that you're incapable of questioning your narrative ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Clearly not in the sciences...
 

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How do you know I didn't wail on it? Were you spying through the window?
Greg YOU don't care for children unless it aligns with your politics.
That part is clear by calling a baby a fetus or a zygote a parasite to justify it's murder.
Kieppie vs English 2: Revisionist Boogaloo

Zygote
cell


Zygote, fertilized egg cell that results from the union of a female gamete (egg, or ovum) with a male gamete (sperm). In the embryonic development of humans and other animals, the zygote stage is brief and is followed by cleavage, when the single cell becomes subdivided into smaller cells.

The zygote represents the first stage in the development of a genetically unique organism. The zygote is endowed with genes from two parents, and thus it is diploid (carrying two sets of chromosomes). The joining of haploid gametes to produce a diploid zygote is a common feature in the sexual reproduction of all organisms except bacteria.


Fetus
embryology


Fetus, also spelled foetus, the unborn young of any vertebrate animal, particularly of a mammal, after it has attained the basic form and structure typical of its kind.


Guess your mom skipped the zygote and embryo stage with you and issued you, shiny and new, as a full grown adult into this obese world.
 

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I guess a study of how many children would have died, would there not have been a lockdown would not be looked at by you.
Oh now your just being dishonest.
That would be a very easy study since the death rates of children due to the virus is already known.

So again protecting the sanctity of lockdowns no matter what?
 

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Should I go back in time and convince myself to join this cesspit earlier?
Could... Could you go back in time and repost your thoughts on Joe's American Families Plan?

You know, the $1,8Tn plan that includes paid leave, child care, universal preschool and free community college.
 
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