US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

[Cray]

This just ties into him trying to play semantic games to justify murder. pro-choice vs pro-abortion is just an old example of it.

You are playing the same games by calling it murder when it's clearly not.

 

[buka001]

This just ties into him trying to play semantic games to justify murder. pro-choice vs pro-abortion is just an old example of it.
How would I know what conservatives are trying? Remind me, is preferred pronouns compelled speech?

Semantics?

Tell me all about January 6 then ...

 

[konfab]

I cannot help but notice the immediate attempted misdirection of the pro murder lobbyists.

They are so compassionate.

To paraphrase greggy:

On the one hand, Ivermectin including the horse paste version, Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromyacin, Remdesivir, Regeneron's monoclonal antibody treatment, Colchicine, OrthoMune dietary supplements, vitamins, herbal supplements, ADHD meds, antidepressants, gargling with Iodine, protesting healthcare workers and calling bomb scares into hospitals, or...

On the other hand, two shots at you nearest Clicks.

Yeah, I see how this is a tough call for folks to make.

On one hand:
Don't have sex, use your hand, use a condom, use a female condom, get a contraceptive injection, take contraceptive pills, get an IUD or take a morning after pill

On the other hand:
Murder a human being.

yeah, I see this is a tough call for people to make.

 

[surface]

I cannot help but notice the immediate attempted misdirection of the pro murder lobbyists.

They are so compassionate.

Dude, your bible is full of killings by god. You must read it in its entirety sometimes and not one or two commandments that suit your narrative like 'Thou shall not shag sheep'. You guys support Murder, genocide just like Quran does/.

 

[greg0205]

To paraphrase greggy:




On one hand:
Don't have sex, use your hand, use a condom, use a female condom, get a contraceptive injection, take contraceptive pills, get an IUD or take a morning after pill

On the other hand:
Murder a human being.

yeah, I see this is a tough call for people to make.

You left out a vasectomy, but I understand how putting the onus entirely on men would be a step too far for you, konfab.

I really do.

 

[konfab]

You left out a vasectomy, but I understand how putting the onus entirely on men would be a step too far for you, konfab.

I really do.

Fathers are stuck with the bill for decades. A mother can simply kill any child that might be an inconvenience. So the onus is certainly on men as well. A vasectomy is a good option for men who don't want children. (I got into quite a bit of trouble with my family when I told my little brother he should get snipped upon his proclamation that he didn't want children).

The reason though, why birth control is focused on woman is simply a numbers game. Block the functionality of a handful of eggs vs literally trillions of sperm. I know this is difficult for a progressive to understand, but men and woman are actually different.

 

[Ponderer]

You are playing the same games by calling it murder when it's clearly not.

A rose by any other name is still a rose.
Pro choice/abortion is pro murder.

 

[Cray]

A rose by any other name is still a rose.
Pro choice/abortion is pro murder.

Not it isn't.

 

[buka001]

Fathers are stuck with the bill for decades. A mother can simply kill any child that might be an inconvenience. So the onus is certainly on men as well. A vasectomy is a good option for men who don't want children. (I got into quite a bit of trouble with my family when I told my little brother he should get snipped upon his proclamation that he didn't want children).

The reason though, why birth control is focused on woman is simply a numbers game. Block the functionality of a handful of eggs vs literally trillions of sperm. I know this is difficult for a progressive to understand, but men and woman are actually different.

Why is a father stuck with the bill for decades?

 

[scudsucker]

or take a morning after pill

But... that.. that's MURDER!!!!

After all, Kieps believes life begins at conception. How different is the morning after pill to abortion at 6 weeks?

You know what the IUD does? It prevents a fertilised ovum from embedding itself in the uterus walls. That, too is MURDER according to Kieppie, because a potentially viable sweet baby has been refused a chance at life by its MURDEROUS mother.

 

[greg0205]

Dude, your bible is full of killings by god. You must read it in its entirety sometimes and not one or two commandments that suit your narrative like 'Thou shall not shag sheep'. You guys support Murder, genocide just like Quran does/.

Numbers 5:16-22

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

Sure reads like god's instructions for an abortion to me.

 

[surface]

But... that.. that's MURDER!!!!

After all, Kieps believes life begins at conception. How different is the morning after pill to abortion at 6 weeks?

You know what the IUD does? It prevents a fertilised ovum from embedding itself in the uterus walls. That, too is MURDER according to Kieppie, because a potentially viable sweet baby has been refused a chance at life by its MURDEROUS mother.

Next from Bible/Quran/Geeta fappers - Every male is responsible for trillions of murders in their lifetime.

 

[Kieppie]

You are playing the same games by calling it murder when it's clearly not.

It is murder. It just sounds less palatable if you say it out loud.
Intentional taking of a life. Hence why I say it's semantics in trying to make the life appear not to count.

 

[Cray]

It is murder. It just sounds less palatable if you say it out loud.
Intentional taking of a life. Hence why I say it's semantics in trying to make the life appear not to count.

So by that definition taking a brain-dead patient off life support is also murder? Brain activity is usually what defines a person, not just life... A sperm is alive isn't , as are a women's eggs., is destroying them also murder in your book?

 

[Kieppie]

But... that.. that's MURDER!!!!

After all, Kieps believes life begins at conception. How different is the morning after pill to abortion at 6 weeks?

I don't "believe" it sucky dearest, it does start at conception.

You know what the IUD does? It prevents a fertilised ovum from embedding itself in the uterus walls. That, too is MURDER according to Kieppie, because a potentially viable sweet baby has been refused a chance at life by its MURDEROUS mother.

Yes sucky well done on googling how these processes work.
We already went through the whole "when does it count as life" argument.

So yes it is the intentional killing, however most people are more pragmatic about it if it is done early enough.
Some are more fanatical about it and believe it should never be done. I don't see any of those here though do you?

 

[cerebus]

It is murder. It just sounds less palatable if you say it out loud.
Intentional taking of a life. Hence why I say it's semantics in trying to make the life appear not to count.

You went from dismissing the possibility that Roe v Wade will be overturned, to declaring that abortion is murder, in a few pages. Your bad faith agenda is just so laughably obvious.

 

[Kieppie]

So by that definition taking a brain-dead patient off life support is also murder? Brain activity is usually what defines a person, not just life... A sperm is alive isn't , as are a women's eggs., is destroying them also murder in your book?

It is, but it's acceptable since there is no hope for recovery. We had the brain activity argument over a week ago already remember?

No a sperm is only alive as in it is biological, same for the eggs. They wont develop or change on their own.

 

[Cray]

It is, but it's acceptable since there is no hope for recovery. We had the brain activity argument over a week ago already remember?

I don't recall, and what was decided?

No a sperm is only alive as in it is biological, same for the eggs. They wont develop or change on their own.

Neither will a foetus if removed from the mother...

 

[Kieppie]

You went from dismissing the possibility that Roe v Wade will be overturned, to declaring that abortion is murder, in a few pages. Your bad faith agenda is just so laughably obvious.

No. It's laughable that people have been saying it's about to be overturned any moment now for almost 50 years. It sounds like a doomsday cult.

You can admit abortion is murder and still allow it in certain circumstances.

So perhaps you need to reevaluate your definition of "obvious".

 

[buka001]

You went from dismissing the possibility that Roe v Wade will be overturned, to declaring that abortion is murder, in a few pages. Your bad faith agenda is just so laughably obvious.

I have bookmarked that post of his, so when it gets overturned his reverse justification that he always held the view that it would get overturned will be on display.