US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

[surface]

Hahaha that's some serious spin there And I'm guessing the Democrat or die crowd around here agree completely with you. What a joke.

I am curious. How would you rate America's vaccination program ? Would you say it is one of top 5 in the world? If not, which are other countries? Before you answer, be mindful of the fact that vaccine itself wouldn't be possible without contribution by the previous president/

 

[SoldierMan]

I am curious. How would you rate America's vaccination program ? Would you say it is one of top 5 in the world? If not, which are other countries? Before you answer, be mindful of the fact that vaccine itself wouldn't be possible without contribution by the previous president/

It is pretty good and can be attributed to both administrations. Trump funded Moderna and got the US program started, Biden's administration continued with that. I am not a one or the other like so many. Both contributed. Not that I care though, I think the mRNA vaccines are dangerous.

 

[Unhappy438]

The only two GOP House members who are knee-deep in QAnon are Greene and that person from Colorado (?) I think. There are currently 212 R House members, so QAnon fanatics comprise a whopping 0.94 percent of the R House caucus. And yes, just as I don't think it was suitable/tenable for Cheney to hold a leadership position in the R caucus, these two clowns should never be a senior leadership position in the R caucus either. They can stay as junior as they are now.

Yes quite right honourable brit, only two who are knee deep. The rest are neck deep.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Remember when @OrbitalDawn and the other Dem crew got really excited last year...

I'm sure you'll show us...

 

[cerebus]

The only two GOP House members who are knee-deep in QAnon are Greene and that person from Colorado (?) I think. There are currently 212 R House members, so QAnon fanatics comprise a whopping 0.94 percent of the R House caucus. And yes, just as I don't think it was suitable/tenable for Cheney to hold a leadership position in the R caucus, these two clowns should never be a senior leadership position in the R caucus either. They can stay as junior as they are now.

It wasn't suitable for Liz Cheney to hold her position because she spoke out against the Qanon conspiracies, but only 2 GOP members are knee-deep in Qanon. The rest just tacitly endorse it with their votes and by not holding MTG accountable for her lunacy.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

lmao. Literally side-by-side posts with zero self-awareness.

just remember the Very Smart People™ only vote Dem and the only people who believe in conspiracy theories are Republicans.

Lol. Her political career is dead. I'd be surprised if she's not taken out in the Republican primary. Huge amount of Trump support in Wyoming...

 

[OrbitalDawn]

This only works if you assume Trumpism can fit neatly into a box and institutional measures can be used as a proxy for the nebulous concept of Trumpism. You are basically assuming the higher the score, the closer he/she is to Trump. I don't see that at all. Those measures are good indicators of Republicanism and not necessarily Trumpism although of course there is overlap but as we saw in 2020, many non-traditional voting groups like Cubans in Miami and Hispanics in the Rio Grande Valley swung strongly to Trump who probably never voted for the Republican party before.

Good on you for acknowledging that the GOP is just a Trump personality cult. Zero principles, values or policy goals. And you're on board.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1393206766670909440

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Except that the clowns are now being championed by cult members all over. And the real fear is that they will become the majority

66% of Republican House members voted to install Trump as a dictator and Chris is here saying these clowns are a "distinct minority".

The 147 Republicans Who Voted to Overturn Election Results (Published 2021)

Republican lawmakers raised objections to the official certification of electoral votes in a joint session of Congress that went into the wee hours of Thursday morning, in a futile effort to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. See who supported the objections.

www.nytimes.com

 

[OrbitalDawn]

It is pretty good and can be attributed to both administrations. Trump funded Moderna and got the US program started, Biden's administration continued with that. I am not a one or the other like so many. Both contributed.

Trump didn't fund jack schit. Operation Warp Speed was funded through the CARES Act, which was proposed, drafted and passed by the Democratic-controlled House.

CARES Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And you know Trump's plan for vaccination was literally to leave the vaccines at state airports and let every state figure it out themselves, right?

In fact, his officials explicitly lobbied against providing them with any resources to help with the vaccine rollout.

Trump officials actively lobbied to deny states money for vaccine rollout last fall

Top Trump officials actively lobbied Congress to deny state governments any extra funding for the Covid-19 vaccine rollout last fall, despite frantic warnings from state officials that they didn’t have the money to ramp up the vaccine rollout.

www.statnews.com

Not that I care though, I think the mRNA vaccines are dangerous.

Based on?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

It wasn't suitable for Liz Cheney to hold her position because she spoke out against the Qanon conspiracies, but only 2 GOP members are knee-deep in Qanon. The rest just tacitly endorse it with their votes and by not holding MTG accountable for her lunacy.

What exactly do you want the Republicans to do to Greene? She stood in a primary, won the primary and won the GE. Her position was legally obtained through democratic means. She holds no actual position of influence within the caucus and she was voted off committees earlier this year. I'm not sure what the American term is for this, but UK MPs who are not ministers are called backbenchers. Some of the backbenchers are powerful of course as they head committees, but Greene isn't even on any committee. Are you suggesting Republicans interfere in the democrat process that elected her? Democracy sometimes leads to outcomes you don't like.

lmao. Literally side-by-side posts with zero self-awareness.

My point was Wyoming Republicans likely regard her as divisive and criticising someone who they like... that doesn't mean Wyoming Republicans necessarily believe the election was stolen.

66% of Republican House members voted to install Trump as a dictator and Chris is here saying these clowns are a "distinct minority".

The 147 Republicans Who Voted to Overturn Election Results (Published 2021)

Republican lawmakers raised objections to the official certification of electoral votes in a joint session of Congress that went into the wee hours of Thursday morning, in a futile effort to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. See who supported the objections.

www.nytimes.com

Err...as you very well know, I was referring to QAnon specifically. I don't really regard the stolen election narrative as a key tenet of QAnon - I associate QAnon with Pizzagate and that kind of stuff. Election stolen stuff is more Trump - that's just how I see it anyway.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Must say weird how Machin gets a lot of criticism on here from Dem supporters for having the complete audacity to actually *talk* to Republicans

Not for *talking* to Republicans, for being made a fool of by them. They're running the same playbook as they did with the ACA. Pretend to be open to bipartisan cooperation, making the administration and Democrats waste months of their legislative time, only to oppose everything anyway and lie egregiously about whatever gets passed.

I'm glad some Dems have cottoned on, but Manchin is still in dreamland, sadly. Still better than a Republican in that seat, though.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

My point was Wyoming Republicans likely regard her as divisive and criticising someone who they like... that doesn't mean Wyoming Republicans necessarily believe the election was stolen.

You *really* don't see it? Why is she criticising him, exactly? What specifically for? And why would Wyoming Republicans dislike her for it, exactly?

Err...as you very well know, I was referring to QAnon specifically. I don't really regard the stolen election narrative as a key tenet of QAnon - I associate QAnon with Pizzagate and that kind of stuff. Election stolen stuff is more Trump - that's just how I see it anyway.

The "stolen election narrative" is an insane lie and conspiracy theory. It just so happens to not be the only one the GOP has embraced!

 

[jack_spratt]

 

[RanzB]

Photo emerges of Republican barricading chamber doors during US Capitol attack after he compared rioters to ‘tourists’​

A photo has emerged of Andrew Clyde, the Republican congressman who claimed “there was no insurrection” and compared US Capitol rioters to “tourists”, barricading the House chamber during the attack.


“The Rep. Clyde news reminded me of this,” Roll Call photographer Tom Williams tweeted this week, and included a picture of the Georgia congressman in a group of eight men pushing a piece of furniture against doors to the chamber.


Speaking on Wednesday to the House Oversight Committee, Rep. Clyde downplayed the actions of the pro-Trump mob who stormed the Capitol on 6 January as “a normal tourist visit”. The violent attack left five dead including one police officer.

Republicans and their alternative facts which their supporters never seem to pick up on.

 

[RanzB]

You *really* don't see it? Why is she criticising him, exactly? What specifically for?

He'll keep tiptoeing around it, the answer is obvious but to concede the point is to call out Republicans for being batshit, which he'll never do, even when they're being batshit.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

66% of Republican House members voted to install Trump as a dictator and Chris is here saying these clowns are a "distinct minority".

The 147 Republicans Who Voted to Overturn Election Results (Published 2021)

Republican lawmakers raised objections to the official certification of electoral votes in a joint session of Congress that went into the wee hours of Thursday morning, in a futile effort to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. See who supported the objections.

www.nytimes.com

He doesn't like to publically admit that he's wearing the same clown pyjamas

 

[surface]

It is pretty good and can be attributed to both administrations. Trump funded Moderna and got the US program started, Biden's administration continued with that. I am not a one or the other like so many. Both contributed. Not that I care though, I think the mRNA vaccines are dangerous.

That was my point. Donald & Ivanka basically pioneered the vaccine and Biden distributed with great success. Remember, there are good people on both sides.

 

[buka001]

Photo emerges of Republican barricading chamber doors during US Capitol attack after he compared rioters to ‘tourists’​

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Republicans and their alternative facts which their supporters never seem to pick up on.

Performative BS.

Many people on this forum have lapped up that propaganda.

"They were just walking about taking selfies".

 

[buka001]

That was my point. Donald & Ivanka basically pioneered the vaccine and Biden distributed with great success. Remember, there are good people on both sides.

And who can forget the amazing "Peace in the Middle East" deals that Jared negotiated.

They really worked out superbly well.

 

[surface]

And who can forget the amazing "Peace in the Middle East" deals that Jared negotiated.

They really worked out superbly well.

Indeed but to be honest, followers of yahweh and mohammed are not going to reconcile in my lifetime.