US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

A crime wave in the poorest areas shames BLM

The mother of all social trends in recent years has been dispersion. Contrary to what people hoped or feared about the sexual revolution turning everyone into “girlymen”, as Arnold Schwarzenegger once put it, some men and women have become more gender-neutral, while many others have gone the...

unherd.com

Crime is another example of dispersion. It is now known that the American murder rate increased sharply following the George Floyd protests, with an extra 3,000 homicides associated with the June 2020 protests, on top of the several thousand already linked with BLM and its influence.

Yet compared to the 1965-1990 US crime wave, this time the murder surge is highly dispersed, with a huge increase in the most dangerous areas but almost no change in the safest.

Wealthy Americans are often accused of “talking the 60s, walking the 50s” and the very nature of dispersion means that they can pretty much talk as much as they like and be immune to the negative consequences.

This is why “defund the police” was the ideal example of what Robert Henderson called luxury beliefs: “ideas and opinions that confer status on the rich at very little cost, while taking a toll on the lower class.”

@OrbitalDawn - your source, as usual, is bending the truth in order to make a false equivalence. Let's see who the mayors are of these cities:

List of mayors of the 50 largest cities in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The only Republicans in this list are from Forth-Worth and Jacksonville. Every other mayor is a Democrat or Independent.

 

[cerebus]

A crime wave in the poorest areas shames BLM

The mother of all social trends in recent years has been dispersion. Contrary to what people hoped or feared about the sexual revolution turning everyone into “girlymen”, as Arnold Schwarzenegger once put it, some men and women have become more gender-neutral, while many others have gone the...

unherd.com

How did you even get past the first paragraph of that article??

The mother of all social trends in recent years has been dispersion. Contrary to what people hoped or feared about the sexual revolution turning everyone into “girlymen”, as Arnold Schwarzenegger once put it, some men and women have become more gender-neutral, while many others have gone the other way; either spending vast amounts of time and money on beauty products to accentuate their femininity or hitting the weights (and steroids) to resemble Khal Drogo. Far more men take testosterone supplements – by some distance – than transition or identify as gender fluid.

 

[surface]

I haven't followed US politics for a while now but sometimes interesting must be happening to have you this triggered?

Looks like pointing out pro-rape republican quotes triggered you as well?

 

[Mach III]

Maybe we can establish an exchange program where we send the rioters to South Africa in exchange for South African's with good records for US citizenship...

The rioters will fit right in with all the dancing and singing to go with it.

Where South African people who just want to people around will fit right in with the civilized world.

Pull through for us Oupa Biden.

Win Win

 

[tetrasect]

A crime wave in the poorest areas shames BLM

The mother of all social trends in recent years has been dispersion. Contrary to what people hoped or feared about the sexual revolution turning everyone into “girlymen”, as Arnold Schwarzenegger once put it, some men and women have become more gender-neutral, while many others have gone the...

unherd.com

@OrbitalDawn - your source, as usual, is bending the truth in order to make a false equivalence. Let's see who the mayors are of these cities:

List of mayors of the 50 largest cities in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The only Republicans in this list are from Forth-Worth and Jacksonville. Every other mayor is a Democrat or Independent.

with an extra 3,000 homicides associated with the June 2020 protests

Associated by whom?

You keep ignoring the real impact that gun laws have on homicide rates and instead blame some fairytale that "people don't like police brutality so now they're killing each other".

 

[tetrasect]

'The disease within the Republican Party': Analyst finds a 2012 report on GOP extremism that looks prophetic​

'The disease within the Republican Party': Analyst finds a 2012 report on GOP extremism that looks prophetic

When President Barack Obama was reelected in 2012 and defeated Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, pundits offered a variety of explanations for Romney's loss. Some pundits on the far right insisted that Romney wasn't conservative enough — that he lost because he was a RINO: Republican...

www.rawstory.com

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Associated by whom?

You keep ignoring the real impact that gun laws have on homicide rates and instead blame some fairytale that "people don't like police brutality so now they're killing each other".

No, why BLM is linked to an upsurge in crime is because BLM is seen as anti-police. The anti-police rhetoric then makes cops themselves unlikely to intervene in situations where they could have saved lives because they might get accused of improper behaviour etc...so police ask, why bother? Just let the criminals shoot each other. Also, police are likely to remove themselves from the surveillance aspect of crime-fighting...will you be more likely to commit a crime if there was a police officer in sight? No. Also, notice when we took about a crime surge, we are not talking about the level (which is high - I agree), but an increase. The increase cannot be put down to lax gun laws as those gun laws have likely existed long before 2020.

 

[cerebus]

No, why BLM is linked to an upsurge in crime is because BLM is seen as anti-police. The anti-police rhetoric then makes cops themselves unlikely to intervene in situations where they could have saved lives because they might get accused of improper behaviour etc...so police ask, why bother? Just let the criminals shoot each other. Also, police are likely to remove themselves from the surveillance aspect of crime-fighting...will you be more likely to commit a crime if there was a police officer in sight? No. Also, notice when we took about a crime surge, we are not talking about the level (which is high - I agree), but an increase. The increase cannot be put down to lax gun laws as those gun laws have likely existed long before 2020.

Police are worried that they'll be reported for bad behaviour so they stop doing their jobs if they can't abuse their power, and you think that reflects badly on BLM??

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Police are worried that they'll be reported for bad behaviour so they stop doing their jobs if they can't abuse their power, and you think that reflects badly on BLM??

Nope. Scared of selectively edited social media clips.

 

[cerebus]

Nope. Scared of selectively edited social media clips.

The only selective editing I’ve seen is of the BLM marches

 

[rietrot]

Looks like pointing out pro-rape republican quotes triggered you as well?

It's mostly factual, maybe slightly insensitive. Just one is stupid.

 

[Vorastra]

The only selective editing I’ve seen is of the BLM marches

You're right.
Fiery but mostly peaceful.
Definitely selective editing to come to that conclusion.

 

[SoldierMan]

Chris was whining that businesses can't get workers, blaming unemployment benefits instead of the wage shortage. We told him that they should raise their wages and they'd get workers.

Lo and behold...

Thanks for agreeing that Chris was wrong.

So just raise the wages hey, and where is that money going to magically come from. A money tree?? People don't just have extra money all of a sudden to raise wages, especially after the Covid disaster.
You live in a dream world where businesses just have endless supplies of money lying around. Unlike the government the average employer can't just print up a trillion dollars to dish out.

 

[surface]

Chris was whining that businesses can't get workers, blaming unemployment benefits instead of the wage shortage. We told him that they should raise their wages and they'd get workers.

Lo and behold...

Thanks for agreeing that Chris was wrong.

Now all we need is Jacob Hanchar to pull a "bankruptcy" and then slave wagers will rage..

 

[tetrasect]

No, why BLM is linked to an upsurge in crime is because BLM is seen as anti-police. The anti-police rhetoric then makes cops themselves unlikely to intervene in situations where they could have saved lives because they might get accused of improper behaviour etc...so police ask, why bother? Just let the criminals shoot each other. Also, police are likely to remove themselves from the surveillance aspect of crime-fighting...will you be more likely to commit a crime if there was a police officer in sight? No. Also, notice when we took about a crime surge, we are not talking about the level (which is high - I agree), but an increase. The increase cannot be put down to lax gun laws as those gun laws have likely existed long before 2020.

That's your explanation? That the Police in the US have stopped doing their job and are instead saying "Just let the criminals shoot each other"?

Surely when you read that out loud you can hear how ridiculous that sounds?

 

[tetrasect]

So just raise the wages hey, and where is that money going to magically come from. A money tree?? People don't just have extra money all of a sudden to raise wages, especially after the Covid disaster.
You live in a dream world where businesses just have endless supplies of money lying around. Unlike the government the average employer can't just print up a trillion dollars to dish out.

The average employer isn't paying minimum wage. That's because small businesses actually have a relationship with and care about their employees.
It's huge cutthroat companies like Amazon that are paying minimum wage. Because they care more about lining their own pockets than caring for their workers.

 

[SoldierMan]

The average employer isn't paying minimum wage. That's because small businesses actually have a relationship with and care about their employees.
It's huge cutthroat companies like Amazon that are paying minimum wage. Because they care more about lining their own pockets than caring for their workers.

I wasn't talking about Amazon, I'm talking about a pizza or coffee shop type business.

Saying "Just pay them more money" is an ignorant thing to say by someone who probably doesn't run a small business who's profits are just enough to see them through the month after paying the bills.

Oh and caring about your employees well being doesn't magically put money in the till.

 

[Vorastra]

Biden's such a good conservative president.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1397181751114534915

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

The average employer isn't paying minimum wage. That's because small businesses actually have a relationship with and care about their employees.
It's huge cutthroat companies like Amazon that are paying minimum wage. Because they care more about lining their own pockets than caring for their workers.

Actually, it's usually the other way round: big corporates with their huge cash piles can afford min. wage increases. Small and medium businesses? Not so much. Perhaps because some people think if you are a "business owner" you are rolling in the dough.

That's your explanation? That the Police in the US have stopped doing their job and are instead is saying "Just let the criminals shoot each other"?

Surely when you read that out loud you can hear how ridiculous that sounds?

Have you heard of no-go zones? Many places in the world where police don't turn up, mostly because they will be attacked.