US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

[cerebus]

That's your explanation? That the Police in the US have stopped doing their job and are instead is saying "Just let the criminals shoot each other"?

Surely when you read that out loud you can hear how ridiculous that sounds?

Just imagine the police hear about a homicide in progress then decide not to show up in case they get recorded, and Chris thinks this doesn't look bad for the police.

 

[tetrasect]

I wasn't talking about Amazon, I'm talking about a pizza or coffee shop type business

So am I. Like I said, small businesses like that don't pay minimum wage. It's the big companies that do.

 

[Temujin]

Must be those darn trumpists at it again... they're pissed he exposed faucis bs... oh wait

 

[AlmightyBender]

Actually, it's usually the other way round: big corporates with their huge cash piles can afford min. wage increases. Small and medium businesses? Not so much. Perhaps because some people think if you are a "business owner" you are rolling in the dough.

If your business relies on slave-like, non-liveable wages to keep in business... Then your business isn't viable. Simple as that.

 

[cerebus]

If your business relies on slave-like, non-liveable wages to keep in business... Then your business isn't viable. Simple as that.

Why won't these pesky abolitionists consider the plight of the poor cotton plantation owner?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

If your business relies on slave-like, non-liveable wages to keep in business... Then your business isn't viable. Simple as that.

There you go again with emotionally laden words that have no precise meaning. People will always have a different amount in mind when thinking about what is "livable"...and it's very silly to consider a national minimum wage in such a diverse country like the US. In some states, your money will only get you a flat, while in other states, the same amount of money will get you a townhouse with a nice garden.

 

[cerebus]

There you go again with emotionally laden words that have no precise meaning. People will always have a different amount in mind when thinking about what is "livable"...and it's very silly to consider a national minimum wage in such a diverse country like the US. In some states, your money will only get you a flat, while in other states, the same amount of money will get you a townhouse with a nice garden.

The US already has a national minimum wage so I'm not sure what's silly about 'considering it'.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

The US already has a national minimum wage so I'm not sure what's silly about 'considering it'.

That's true but it's at a very low level and likely too low for expensive states like CA / NY etc. So now Dem activists want to more than double it to $15/hour but that could price out businesses in low-cost states, so it's a tricky balance. A federal min. wage isn't ideal, states should be able to determine their own min. wage, preferably through a referendum (IIRC, Republican voters generally, when offered the choice, vote for higher min. wage which is not what establishment Republicans want):

Minimum wage on the ballot

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

 

[cerebus]

That's true but it's at a very low level and likely too low for expensive states like CA / NY etc.

Yes because it hasn't been updated since 2007. And state minimums are hardly any better with only a few exceptions. The point is, as it always was, to be LIVEABLE. All you can talk about is how tricky it is to keep the balance, but regardless of how you find the balance, you need to improve it. There is nowhere in the US that you can live on $7.25 an hour.

 

[Vorastra]

I love this woman's grift.

AOC says she’s effectively ‘served in war’ after Capitol riot

She claimed that congresspersons have now effectively “served in war” and that she is “doing therapy” because of her experience on January 6.

thepostmillennial.com

 

[buka001]

I love this woman's grift.

AOC says she’s effectively ‘served in war’ after Capitol riot

She claimed that congresspersons have now effectively “served in war” and that she is “doing therapy” because of her experience on January 6.

thepostmillennial.com

I love how you always post about her, keeps me up to date on what the latest Pearl Clutching she has generated from you, for me to laugh about.

 

[Vorastra]

I love how you always post about her, keeps me up to date on what the latest Pearl Clutching she has generated from you, for me to laugh about.

I've posted a total of 4 times, now 5, in this thread. One of which, 4th post, is about AOC.

Funny how pointing out the BS from your peeps is pearl-clutching.

How's all those kids in cages, bruh. Record numbers I believe.

My bad. Must be more pearl-clutching.

 

[buka001]

I've posted a total of 4 times, now 5, in this thread. One of which, 4th post, is about AOC.

Funny how pointing out the BS from your peeps is pearl-clutching.

How's all those kids in cages, bruh. Record numbers I believe.

My bad. Must be more pearl-clutching.

Ok, anyway, thanks for keeping us up to date on the all important developments associated with her.

 

[Vorastra]

Ok, anyway, thanks for keeping us up to date on the all important developments associated with her.

Don't be embarrassed.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

A crime wave in the poorest areas shames BLM

The mother of all social trends in recent years has been dispersion. Contrary to what people hoped or feared about the sexual revolution turning everyone into “girlymen”, as Arnold Schwarzenegger once put it, some men and women have become more gender-neutral, while many others have gone the...

unherd.com

@OrbitalDawn - your source, as usual, is bending the truth in order to make a false equivalence. Let's see who the mayors are of these cities:

List of mayors of the 50 largest cities in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The only Republicans in this list are from Forth-Worth and Jacksonville. Every other mayor is a Democrat or Independent.
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Oh look. A post that shows that 13 of the 15 major US cities have democratic mayors.....and there is an increase in homicides in most US cities.

Dunno what it was meant to prove though.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

A crime wave in the poorest areas shames BLM

The mother of all social trends in recent years has been dispersion. Contrary to what people hoped or feared about the sexual revolution turning everyone into “girlymen”, as Arnold Schwarzenegger once put it, some men and women have become more gender-neutral, while many others have gone the...

unherd.com

@OrbitalDawn - your source, as usual, is bending the truth in order to make a false equivalence. Let's see who the mayors are of these cities:

List of mayors of the 50 largest cities in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The only Republicans in this list are from Forth-Worth and Jacksonville. Every other mayor is a Democrat or Independent.
View attachment 1076865

>Complain that source is "bending the truth"
>Uses list that doesn't include many of the largest Republican-run cities that had massive spikes in homicides.

Miami - Francis Xavier Suarez - Republican (30% increase in homicides)
San Diego - Kevin Faulconer (mayor until Dec 2020) - Republican (10% increase in homicides)
Omaha - Jean Stothert - Republican (saw a 61% spike in homicides)
Tulsa - G. T. Bynum - Republican (Near record rate of homicides)
Jacksonville - Lenny Curry - Republican (22% increase in homicides)
Oklahoma City - David Holt - Republican (149% increase since 2006)
Fresno - Lee Brand (mayor until Jan 2021, replaced by another Republican) - Republican (64% increase in homicides)
Mesa - John Giles - Republican (100% increase in homicides)

 

[OrbitalDawn]

No, why BLM is linked to an upsurge in crime is because BLM is seen as anti-police. The anti-police rhetoric then makes cops themselves unlikely to intervene in situations where they could have saved lives because they might get accused of improper behaviour etc...so police ask, why bother? Just let the criminals shoot each other. Also, police are likely to remove themselves from the surveillance aspect of crime-fighting...will you be more likely to commit a crime if there was a police officer in sight? No. Also, notice when we took about a crime surge, we are not talking about the level (which is high - I agree), but an increase. The increase cannot be put down to lax gun laws as those gun laws have likely existed long before 2020.

Drivel. Notice how many of the cities on your list are in Texas?

This, from 2019:

Texas relaxed gun laws after recent mass shootings

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — After dozens of people, including toddlers and teenagers, were gunned down in separate mass shootings at a church Sutherland Springs and a high school in suburban Houston,...

apnews.com

Texas loosens firearm laws hours after the state's latest mass shooting left five dead | CNN

A series of new firearm laws are going into effect in Texas on September 1 -- further loosening gun restrictions in a state that's had four of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in modern US history.

www.cnn.com

 

[AlmightyBender]

>Complain that source is "bending the truth"
>Uses list that doesn't include many of the largest Republican-run cities that had massive spikes in homicides.

Miami - Francis Xavier Suarez - Republican (30% increase in homicides)
San Diego - Kevin Faulconer (mayor until Dec 2020) - Republican (10% increase in homicides)
Omaha - Jean Stothert - Republican (saw a 61% spike in homicides)
Tulsa - G. T. Bynum - Republican (Near record rate of homicides)
Jacksonville - Lenny Curry - Republican (22% increase in homicides)
Oklahoma City - David Holt - Republican (149% increase since 2006)
Fresno - Lee Brand (mayor until Jan 2021, replaced by another Republican) - Republican (64% increase in homicides)
Mesa - John Giles - Republican (100% increase in homicides)

The desperation to make a non-partisan issue into a win/lose issue is... broken, garbage behaviour

 

[AlmightyBender]

There you go again with emotionally laden words that have no precise meaning. People will always have a different amount in mind when thinking about what is "livable"...and it's very silly to consider a national minimum wage in such a diverse country like the US. In some states, your money will only get you a flat, while in other states, the same amount of money will get you a townhouse with a nice garden.

If your business relies on non-liveable wages, in the areas it operates in, to keep in business... Then your business isn't viable. Simple as that.

Fixed. Thanks for helping me strengthen my argument.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

>Complain that source is "bending the truth"
>Uses list that doesn't include many of the largest Republican-run cities that had massive spikes in homicides.

Miami - Francis Xavier Suarez - Republican (30% increase in homicides)
San Diego - Kevin Faulconer (mayor until Dec 2020) - Republican (10% increase in homicides)
Omaha - Jean Stothert - Republican (saw a 61% spike in homicides)
Tulsa - G. T. Bynum - Republican (Near record rate of homicides)
Jacksonville - Lenny Curry - Republican (22% increase in homicides)
Oklahoma City - David Holt - Republican (149% increase since 2006)
Fresno - Lee Brand (mayor until Jan 2021, replaced by another Republican) - Republican (64% increase in homicides)
Mesa - John Giles - Republican (100% increase in homicides)

It's almost like he's "bending the truth to make a false equivalence" . No surprise that he didn't directly quote you when responding, because that might have made it too obvious