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tetrasect said:
Then why don't they censure MTG?
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They can't actually do anything to MTG, didn't you realize that?

US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

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tetrasect said:
Then why don't they censure MTG?
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Because the Georgia Republican Party is run by Trump's allies?

Note that if you are talking about a censure in the House, that's actually up to the Democrats (because they are in the majority, not the Republicans). So yes on this rare occasion, I will support the Democrats, but it's kind of a "meh" stunt because that's not really going to change anything. In fact, as some Dems fear, this will likely increase her fundraising. If Dems, her political enemies think punishing Greene is a "complex issue", it's 100x more complex for Republicans because she's on their side.

Politico makes this point:

Democrats also acknowledge that punishing Greene is a complex issue: They want to hold her accountable without simply emboldening her public stunts — and her fundraising. Top Democrats have not ruled out a vote on a measure such as a censure, though the House will not be back in session until mid-June.
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www.politico.com

House GOP leaders rebuke Greene's Holocaust rhetoric as 'appalling'

Top Republicans stopped short of calling for disciplinary action, while Democrats haven't ruled it out.
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Arizona Republicans introduce bill to strip powers from Democratic secretary of state​


Arizona Republicans passed a measure on Tuesday to strip Democrat Katie Hobbs, the current secretary of state, of her ability to defend election lawsuits, a seemingly partisan retaliation for her sharp criticism of the party's controversial election audit.

The bill, which passed both the state's House and Senate Appropriations committees, puts the attorney general, Republican Mark Brnovich, in charge of defending all lawsuits through January 2, 2023, which is around the end of his and Hobbs’ current terms.


“The legislature intends that the attorney general make all strategic decisions regarding election litigation and be allowed to intervene on behalf of this state if the attorney general determines, in the attorney general's sole discretion, that the intervention is appropriate,” according to the bill.

The bill also states that the attorney general cannot represent or provide legal advice to the Secretary of State, which is generally the chief elections administrator, or the Department of State on any matters through June 30, 2023. But it allows the secretary to hire one full-time “equivalent position” to serve as legal advisor to represent them, but blocks the secretary from “spending or incurring indebtedness to employ outside or private attorneys to provide representation or services.”

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Arizona Republicans introduce bill to strip powers from Democratic secretary of state

This measure, which has to pass the full legislature, comes as Senate Republicans are leading a 2020 election audit of the state’s largest county.
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tetrasect said:

Arizona Republicans introduce bill to strip powers from Democratic secretary of state​


Arizona Republicans passed a measure on Tuesday to strip Democrat Katie Hobbs, the current secretary of state, of her ability to defend election lawsuits, a seemingly partisan retaliation for her sharp criticism of the party's controversial election audit.

The bill, which passed both the state's House and Senate Appropriations committees, puts the attorney general, Republican Mark Brnovich, in charge of defending all lawsuits through January 2, 2023, which is around the end of his and Hobbs’ current terms.


“The legislature intends that the attorney general make all strategic decisions regarding election litigation and be allowed to intervene on behalf of this state if the attorney general determines, in the attorney general's sole discretion, that the intervention is appropriate,” according to the bill.

The bill also states that the attorney general cannot represent or provide legal advice to the Secretary of State, which is generally the chief elections administrator, or the Department of State on any matters through June 30, 2023. But it allows the secretary to hire one full-time “equivalent position” to serve as legal advisor to represent them, but blocks the secretary from “spending or incurring indebtedness to employ outside or private attorneys to provide representation or services.”

www.nbcnews.com

Arizona Republicans introduce bill to strip powers from Democratic secretary of state

This measure, which has to pass the full legislature, comes as Senate Republicans are leading a 2020 election audit of the state’s largest county.
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tetrasect said:
So they do see her as the future of the party after all?

You're talking yourself into a hole here.
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No. The type of people who get elected to such positions are generally political fanatics who only represent a tiny fraction of the adult population (the large majority of people don't pay much attention to politics). However these fanatics can wield influence in safe seats like Greene's seat where the real competition is who wins the primary and not the general election. Primary turnout is quite low and largely only the most dedicated people will vote for them, however, for some or other reason which I haven't figured out, most people who are consumed by politics tend to be more extreme than those who do not pay much attention. Greene would certainly not win in a marginal seat but like AOC, she can be as extreme as she wants with little electoral consequence.
 
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The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
No. The type of people who get elected to such positions are generally political fanatics who only represent a tiny fraction of the adult population (the large majority of people don't pay much attention to politics). However these fanatics can wield influence in safe seats like Greene's seat where the real competition is who wins the primary and not the general election. Primary turnout is quite low and largely only the most dedicated people will vote for them, however, for some or other reason which I haven't figured out, most people who are consumed by politics tend to be more extreme than those who do not pay much attention. Greene would certainly not win in a marginal seat but like AOC, she can be as extreme as she wants with little electoral consequence.
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The type of people who get elected to represent the republican party in the United States congress are generally political fanatics who only represent a tiny fraction of the adult population?

Finally we agree on something.

Point is you are making out as if the republican party is publicly and privately denouncing MTG when in fact they did nothing but disagree with her remarks after being pressed for comment for days.
 
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The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
None of the anti-Trump GOP members have been removed from the party in the House, so they are in the same position as Greene. You might bring up Cheney, but she was in a leadership position, so action could be taken and even on that count, a vote was called and given the huge pro-Trump bias among house GOP members, it was obvious she'd lost because she is in the minority faction. I'm unaware of any other action against the 9 GOP members who voted for impeachment besides some Trump supporters saying they will challenge them in the GOP primary, which is a perfectly legitimate form of democratic contestation.
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So your defence of their behaviour is that the only person they actually punished is the one that refused to regurgitate the insane lies about the election?

And this is part of your reasoning as to why the party isn't overrun with insane people?

And you didn't respond to this article highlighting how the GOP is being taken over by people spouting the same insane crap.

www.vice.com

Pro-Trump Conspiracy Theorists Are Taking Over State Republican Parties

A VICE News review of public positions of all 50 GOP state chairs shows a growing number of conspiracists winning control of state party chairmanships.
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Republicans didn’t just lose the House, the Senate and the presidency—they lost what was left of their damn minds.
 
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