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rietrot said:
You are just talking BS.

If there is nothing wrong with 16 year olds having sex there is most certainly nothing wrong with them getting married first, it is actually better.
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That's not the argument. What's your position on a 14yr old marrying a 24 yr old and having children? Or 10yr olds married off to husbands of 24, 25 and 31?
 
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quovadis said:
That's not the argument. What's your position on a 14yr old marrying a 24 yr old and having children? Or 10yr olds married off to husbands of 24, 25 and 31?
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Do not approve of it.
The same as I do not approve of any 14 year old having sex.

The religious conservative position that the kids should get married first is better.

Parents that marry off kids to someone of and inappropriate age should just be shot.
 
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rietrot said:
Do not approve of it.
The same as I do not approve of any 14 year old having sex.

Parents that marry off kids to someone of and inappropriate age should just be shot.
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Great.
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The religious conservative position the kids should get married first is better.
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I'd hope that position excludes children getting married to paedophiles with parental consent.
 
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tetrasect said:
There is absolutely zero evidence for that claim. You just have a twisted imagination.
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Wrong. Every fetish has a large component of sexualisation inherent therein. If you don't know this then that is a you problem.
That is why for example even gay people are saying that pride celebrations are not child friendly. Some of the depraved fetishisation on display there is shocking.

Drag performers are externalising their internal fetish. It isn't just men wearing woman's clothes and adopting extravagant behaviour.
Nor is it just people innocently reading stories to children.

Drag queens are a modern day version of a clown, bright, colourful and over the top. Children are obviously drawn to such colourful displays.
The sexualised aspect is where it becomes problematic and it becomes apparent by cases such as "Desmond is Amazing" and the wacko support this enjoys.

So I ask again why are you so determined to defend grooming behaviour?
 
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quovadis said:
Great.

I'd hope that position excludes children getting married to paedophiles with parental consent.
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Those aren't pedophiles though, unless you're arguing that they divorce as soon as their wives get older? :rolleyes:
I suppose you're just using the word for dramatic effect and you're not trying to undermine the problem with actual pedophilia.
 
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Those aren't pedophiles though, unless you're arguing that they divorce as soon as their wives get older? :rolleyes:
I suppose you're just using the word for dramatic effect and you're not trying to undermine the problem with actual pedophilia.
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What is wrong with you?
 
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quovadis said:
What is wrong with you?
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Nothing, but you seem to fail at basic definitions?
I had a similar argument earlier where idiots tried to downplay the problems of pedophilia by using the legal term "minor" to pretend that late adolescence is the same as a preteen.
These people have F all concern with the well being of actual children and just try to score political points.
Are you one of those?
 
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Nothing, but you seem to fail at basic definitions?
I had a similar argument earlier where idiots tried to downplay the problems of pedophilia by using the legal term "minor" to pretend that late adolescence is the same as a preteen.
These people have F all concern with the well being of actual children and just try to score political points.
Are you one of those?
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Stop arguing with yourself. A 10 or 14yr old girl marrying a 24yr man old isn't simply a cover for pedophilia?
 
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quovadis said:
Stop arguing with yourself. A 10 or 14yr old girl marrying a 24yr man old isn't simply a cover for pedophilia?
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No it's not, while I may disagree vehemently with that situation it is not the same. A pedophile never loses their attraction to such preteens.
So as his wife will grow up that will become a problem, hence why I asked if he divorces her, in which case your limited example would be accurate.

The main point however is that equating youth marriages to pedophilia is disingenuous to say the least.
First of all it isn't a normal practise, mostly in cases where there is an religious aspect. Which is WHY such laws are shot down by Reps. Not because they want it to become the norm in the country or want to promote "pedophilia", but because it falls under the first amendment protections.
Secondly even in these youth marriages, the overwhelming majority are where the ages are within a reasonable range. Jumping to the most extreme examples you can find serves zero purpose.

So yes trying to cast shade at this, while defending grooming of underage children is sick.
More conservative leaning people are and always will be more concerned with the safety and well being of their children owning to the fact that they are more family focused and are more likely to have children.
 
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No it's not, while I may disagree vehemently with that situation it is not the same. A pedophile never loses their attraction to such preteens.
So as his wife will grow up that will become a problem, hence why I asked if he divorces her, in which case your limited example would be accurate.

The main point however is that equating youth marriages to pedophilia is disingenuous to say the least.
First of all it isn't a normal practise, mostly in cases where there is an religious aspect. Which is WHY such laws are shot down by Reps. Not because they want it to become the norm in the country or want to promote "pedophilia", but because it falls under the first amendment protections.
Secondly even in these youth marriages, the overwhelming majority are where the ages are within a reasonable range. Jumping to the most extreme examples you can find serves zero purpose.

So yes trying to cast shade at this, while defending grooming of underage children is sick.
More conservative leaning people are and always will be more concerned with the safety and well being of their children owning to the fact that they are more family focused and are more likely to have children.
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Wow. I’m at a loss for words.
 
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quovadis said:
Wow. I’m at a loss for words.
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Insanity on display.

Guy in his 20's marrying a 10 year old is not a pedo and there's nothing wrong with it but reading a children's book in a classroom while dressed up as a woman is "sexual grooming" and must be banned.

If Kieppie is not a troll then he is as cooked as they come. Sadly not hard to believe that he is not a troll since it seems like half the republicans suffer the same mental "logic".
 
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Insanity on display.

Guy in his 20's marrying a 10 year old is not a pedo and there's nothing wrong with it but reading a children's book in a classroom while dressed up as a woman is "sexual grooming" and must be banned.

If Kieppie is not a troll then he is as cooked as they come. Sadly not hard to believe that he is not a troll since it seems like half the republicans suffer the same mental "logic".
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Cmon. Do you really struggle this much with reading comprehension? The post you are missreprestining melisously on purpose is there in the open for everyone to read.
 
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Cmon. Do you really struggle this much with reading comprehension? The post you are missreprestining melisously on purpose is there in the open for everyone to read.
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Leftism is antithetical to logic. It's hardly surprising that they struggle with these simple concepts.

I wonder what they'll do if they find out these extremely young brides/grooms are Muslim or Hindu. Will being labelled as Islamophobic change their viewpoint?
 
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