US Politics: Bike tricks

[tetrasect]

I wonder what they'll do if they find out these extremely young brides/grooms are Muslim or Hindu. Will being labelled as Islamophobic change their viewpoint?

If that were the case then republicans would be banning it in a flash, instead of fighting to keep it.

 

[tetrasect]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1640009662266507266

So she's now just another typical bought-off politician. Don't expect any revolutionary stuff from her.

Nobody ever did. The only people harping on about AOC on this forum are the Trumpists.

 

[Temujin]

"Force the vote" - what do you mean?

Medicare for all.
Like the way reps did this time when voting speaker(holding back votes until they get their 'guarantees'), aoc said when she gets in she would force pelosi by doing the same, trade their votes for medicare for all vote. It never happened, day 1 she bent over. She was always a bought and paid puppet

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Nobody ever did. The only people harping on about AOC on this forum are the Trumpists.

Nope. Greg and cerebus were basically salivating over her when she won her primary in an upset victory. Talking about a progressive takeover of the Dem party and all that jazz.

 

[quovadis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1639786266395803654

 

[Kieppie]

If that were the case then republicans would be banning it in a flash, instead of fighting to keep it.

Nonsense. You cited numbers without any context. Which is why I asked for numerical breakdown of marriages along with their age differences.
Turns out the problematic ones are actually statistically irrelevant.

Republicans are merely maintaining the 1st amendment rights. They are know to be sticklers when it comes to the constitution.
Yet some clowns here try and conflate this with actual pedophilia. Remind me which side is pushing for acceptance of MAPS?

I was also mocking the let's propensity for not applying standards evenly. They'll likely support this child marriages if it is know to be from a minority faction. That link in my previous post might prove illuminating to some here

 

[Kieppie]

Nope. Greg and cerebus were basically salivating over her when she won her primary in an upset victory. Talking about a progressive takeover of the Dem party and all that jazz.

Greg salivates over Hillary and Warren so I wouldn't take him too seriously

 

[Kieppie]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1639786266395803654

Yeah I'd take historic peace deals and no new wars over international ignoramuses building floats any day of the month.
Now people are just laughing at the US without any positive tradeoffs
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[tetrasect]

Nonsense.

Really? Nonsense? You actually think republicans would stick their necks out to ensure marriage laws stay in place so that Muslims living in the US can have child brides? Think it's time for your meds.

You cited numbers without any context. Which is why I asked for numerical breakdown of marriages along with their age differences.

What do you need that for? The fact that 60,000 child marriages would be considered sex crimes tells you all you need to know.

Turns out the problematic ones are actually statistically irrelevant.

60,000 out of 300,000 seems pretty significant to me.

Republicans are merely maintaining the 1st amendment rights. They are know to be sticklers when it comes to the constitution.

1st amendment? WFT are you on about? Where does it say that marrying a child is a right?

Yet some clowns here try and conflate this with actual pedophilia. Remind me which side is pushing for acceptance of MAPS?

You are literally arguing that a 24 year old who marries and has sex with a 10 year old child is "not a pedophile unless he looses interest when she grows up". Re-read my comment above regarding your meds.

I was also mocking the let's propensity for not applying standards evenly. They'll likely support this child marriages if it is know to be from a minority faction. That link in my previous post might prove illuminating to some here

Yeah you thought you were being clever but you were actually just talking nonsense.

 

[Kieppie]

Really? Nonsense? You actually think republicans would stick their necks out to ensure marriage laws stay in place so that Muslims living in the US can have child brides? Think it's time for your meds.

First amendment is the first amendment. Cope more please.

What do you need that for? The fact that 60,000 child marriages would be considered sex crimes tells you all you need to know.

No it won't be consider sex crimes. Otherwise they would now be in jail doncha think?

60,000 out of 300,000 seems pretty significant to me.

Not really. especially since your 60k isn't actually anywhere close to 60k, but that was already covered.

1st amendment? WFT are you on about? Where does it say that marrying a child is a right?

Go educate yourself on first amendment and religion. It's not hard. I'm sure you can even find a handy article that spoon feeds you.

You are literally arguing that a 24 year old who marries and has sex with a 10 year old child is "not a pedophile unless he looses interest when she grows up". Re-read my comment above regarding your meds.

If you're incapable of making a distinction between this situation and pedophilia that's a you problem. I can't magically grant you critical thinking.
Serious how did you attain a tertiary education?

Yeah you thought you were being clever but you were actually just talking nonsense.

Nah Everything I stated was correct. Your failure at comprehension is again a you problem.

Do go on defending grooming though, it's really a barrel of laughs seeing how inconsistent you lot are.

 

[quovadis]

Go educate yourself on first amendment and religion. It's not hard. I'm sure you can even find a handy article that spoon feeds you.

Is sharia law then legal in the US? How about polygamy?

No it won't be consider sex crimes. Otherwise they would now be in jail doncha think?

Actually most in the absence of marriage would be, hence the criticism of exceptions/loopholes to statutory rape.

If you're incapable of making a distinction between this situation and pedophilia that's a you problem.

Your arguments are absurd.

 

[tetrasect]

First amendment is the first amendment. Cope more please.

No it won't be consider sex crimes. Otherwise they would now be in jail doncha think?

Do you even understand the subject matter here?

The federal criminal code prohibits sex with a child under the age of 15 but specifically exempts those who first marry the child.

Not really. especially since your 60k isn't actually anywhere close to 60k, but that was already covered.

Yes it's 40,000 but because of the lack of available data from some states it is estimated to be at least 60,000.

Go educate yourself on first amendment and religion. It's not hard. I'm sure you can even find a handy article that spoon feeds you.

Yeah sure. Your religion allows marrying and having sex with little kids so therefore it's your constitutional right to do so. Double your dosage, dude.

If you're incapable of making a distinction between this situation and pedophilia that's a you problem. I can't magically grant you critical thinking.
Serious how did you attain a tertiary education?

There is no distinction. A 24 year old who marries and has sex with a 10 year old is literally a pedophile. By definition. Actually, triple your dosage.

Nah Everything I stated was correct. Your failure at comprehension is again a you problem.

Do go on defending grooming though, it's really a barrel of laughs seeing how inconsistent you lot are.

You fail to even grasp what the subject of conversation is, never mind being correct in any sense of the word.

 

[tetrasect]

WT actual F.

Trump is wearing the insurrection as a badge of honor.

 

[Kieppie]

Do you even understand the subject matter here?

It seems you are the one that understands very little here...
Lets go over some of it.

The federal criminal code prohibits sex with a child age 12 to 15 but specifically exempts those who first marry the child.

If it's exempt then it's not a crime now is it? Would you want to charge their 13-18 year old partners with a crime?
We often see girls under the age of 12 fall pregnant, how about those cases? But hey at least they didn't get married right?

Yes it's 40,000 but because of the lack of data from some states it is estimated to be at least 60,000.

Haha no. How you suck at basics like this is beyond me.

lets use your favourite wiki info.

Only 1% of child marriages are aged under 15yr
95% at the age of consent or older. I'm sure you can calculate 5% of 300k*?
It's split 55% female 45% male. Which should be obvious given that grooms tend to be older.
The average age difference is 4 years which is why you see such a high stat for marrying "adult males".

Yeah sure. Your religion is marrying and having sex with little kids so therefore it's not your constitutional right. Double your dosage, dude.

There is no distinction. A 24 year old who marries and has sex with a 10 year old is literally a pedophile. By definition. Actually, triple your dosage.

Again you being unable to grasp the distinction is not my problem, perhaps go read more? I get really annoyed when ignorant people downplay the problems with actual pedophilia.
Perhaps if you were more aware of what this entail you wouldn't be making these type of claims.

Again the typical age difference is 4 years, that doesn't even qualify to be called pedophilia by any stretch of the imagination.
Less than 3% of the time the older spouse in over 29yr, which is where my initial 30 year statement comes into play. While this is abhorrent it's still not pedophilia. Perhaps if you knew about actual pedophilia you'd understand.
I'm not excluding the possibility that some cases might harbour such individuals, especially not if the age gap becomes this large.

You're focusing on the extreme examples to try and prove your point. Extreme examples that number less than 10 mind you. But do go ahead and focus on those instead

You fail to even grasp what the subject of conversation is, never mind being correct in any sense of the word.

Don't project your own failures.
You equated grooming actual young children with youth marriages (less than 300000 in over two decades mind you) which are mostly religious in nature and 95% at the age of consent or older.
Curious that those youth marriages are predominantly amongst Native american or Chinese decent. Heck caucasian is the least likely of all the demographics. Just screeaaams republican voters right?
Youth marriages are more pronounced amongst Hindu and Muslim. Again just screeaaams republican voters right?
They only vote to protect their own right? Get your head out of the sand with your political BS please.

Any more nonsense you'd like to post today?
Please do continue your approval of grooming though. The left is known for it after all.

 

[Kieppie]

Is sharia law then legal in the US? How about polygamy?

You should be aware that the free exercise of religion is not absolute. Basically up to when it violates certain notions of health, safety, and morality.
Petitions to change the law regarding youth marriages fall under the first two health and safety.

Actually most in the absence of marriage would be, hence the criticism of exceptions/loopholes to statutory rape.

Considering that 95% of youth marriages the younger partner is 16 or older, then no "most" will not be statuatory rape.
Seriously where do you get your nonsense info from?

Given that the average age difference is 4 years even a 14 yr old and 18 yr old would not fall into this category as they started their relationship while they were both under 18. Them being mature enough to opt for marriage is a positive thing, albeit extremely rare.
Even rarer are cases where the older party is above 18 when they start their relationship with someone below the age of consent. How the parent or the judge end up approving of said marriage I don not know.
Perhaps these are traditional arranged marriages, but the data I've seen does not make this distinction.

Your arguments are absurd.

Your lack of comprehension is your problem. It's not pedophilia, but do continue believing it is.
Weird that pointing out logic flaws made by you and other in these arguments it somehow implies I support the behaviour.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[tetrasect]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1640026716172173315

 

[Whright]

Trump2024

 

[quovadis]

You should be aware that the free exercise of religion is not absolute. Basically up to when it violates certain notions of health, safety, and morality.
Petitions to change the law regarding youth marriages fall under the first two health and safety.

I thought the first amendment was the first amendment? Nice attempt at a backtrack.

Considering that 95% of youth marriages the younger partner is 16 or older, then no "most" will not be statuatory rape.
Seriously where do you get your nonsense info from?

Given that the average age difference is 4 years even a 14 yr old and 18 yr old would not fall into this category as they started their relationship while they were both under 18. Them being mature enough to opt for marriage is a positive thing, albeit extremely rare.
Even rarer are cases where the older party is above 18 when they start their relationship with someone below the age of consent. How the parent or the judge end up approving of said marriage I don not know.
Perhaps these are traditional arranged marriages, but the data I've seen does not make this distinction.

So at least 5,000 14yr-15yr old girls is not of any concern because it's rare. Just stop.

Your lack of comprehension is your problem. It's not pedophilia, but do continue believing it is.
Weird that pointing out logic flaws made by you and other in these arguments it somehow implies I support the behaviour.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You're the one defending pedophiles, not me.

 

[Kieppie]

I thought the first amendment was the first amendment? Nice attempt at a backtrack.

If you're unable to understand the 1st amendment and it's imposed limitations how is that my problem?

So at least 5,000 14yr-15yr old girls is not of any concern because it's rare. Just stop.

It's of little concern because their partners, barring some rare cases, are within the same age range. So no it's not.
Let me guess when abortion debates roll around your one of those that cry about rape instead of the actual issues at play? Didn't we have the "Reductio ad absurdum" quip already?
Again you have no idea what actual pedophilia involves. This is not it and I hope you never have to be exposed to it.

You're the one defending pedophiles, not me.

Nope you're the one that don't know what they are.
Why not go ask the leftist that actually defend MAPS instead?

 

[tetrasect]

It seems you are the one that understands very little here...
Lets go over some of it.


If it's exempt then it's not a crime now is it? Would you want to charge their 13-18 year old partners with a crime?
We often see girls under the age of 12 fall pregnant, how about those cases? But hey at least they didn't get married right?

OMG are you thick in the head or something?

If they marry the child it is not a crime but if they had not married the child then it would be. That's what I said from the beginning. Your comprehension is terrible.

Haha no. How you suck at basics like this is beyond me.

lets use your favourite wiki info.

Only 1% of child marriages are aged under 15yr
95% at the age of consent or older. I'm sure you can calculate 5% of 300k*?
It's split 55% female 45% male. Which should be obvious given that grooms tend to be older.
The average age difference is 4 years which is why you see such a high stat for marrying "adult males".

Don't think too hard, cause as we see above, you will fail.

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Again you being unable to grasp the distinction is not my problem, perhaps go read more? I get really annoyed when ignorant people downplay the problems with actual pedophilia.
Perhaps if you were more aware of what this entail you wouldn't be making these type of claims.

You're focusing on the extreme examples to try and prove your point. Extreme examples that number less than 10 mind you. But do go ahead and focus on those instead

I'm arguing against what you said. And you literally said that a 24 year old who marries and has sex with a 10 year old is not a pedophile unless he divorces her when she grows up, which is honestly one of the most bizarre statements I have ever read. Anyone who wants to have sex with a 10 year old is a fking pedo. And a drag queen reading a fking book is not. End of story.

Don't project your own failures.
You equated grooming actual young children with youth marriages (less than 300000 in over two decades mind you) which are mostly religious in nature and 95% at the age of consent or older.
Curious that those youth marriages are predominantly amongst Native american or Chinese decent. Heck caucasian is the least likely of all the demographics. Just screeaaams republican voters right?
Youth marriages are more pronounced amongst Hindu and Muslim. Again just screeaaams republican voters right?
They only vote to protect their own right? Get your head out of the sand with your political BS please.

Any more nonsense you'd like to post today?
Please do continue your approval of grooming though. The left is known for it after all.

There is no "actual grooming" going on, you're just so homophobic that a man wearing a dress scares you half to death. And it's pretty pathetic.