US Politics: Bike tricks

[Kieppie]

Total misrepresentation. Defamation is a tough cookie to crack in the US so having to cough up legal fees isn’t a win for Trump - just a win for his lawyers.

Stormy lies, that much has been pretty consistent. The fact that she ends up having to pay Trump or his lawyers just makes it even more ironic.
Johnny won his case, much to the chagrin of a certain member here, the difference is merit and evidence.

She'll never be able to repay the fines, except perhaps by Dem donations for her "performance" in this trial.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Not a legal eagle so I cannot assess whether the arguments being made here are worthwhile but on the face of it, Bragg seems to have made quite a weak case.

Trump’s great crime is to have stood up to the elites

This incoherent indictment makes a mockery of the law.

www.spiked-online.com

Reader, it was not. According to the statement of facts released with the indictment, Trump ‘repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal criminal conduct that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election’. And what was that criminal conduct? ‘From August 2015 to December 2017, the defendant orchestrated a scheme with others to influence the 2016 presidential election by identifying and purchasing negative information about him to suppress its publication and benefit the defendant’s electoral prospects’, reads the statement. ‘In order to execute the unlawful scheme, the participants violated election laws and made and caused false entries in the business records of various entities in New York. The participants also took steps that mischaracterised, for tax purposes, the true nature of the payments made in furtherance of the scheme.’



Let’s break this down. The alleged crime of falsifying documents can only be bumped up to a felony worthy of prosecuting Trump if the documents were falsified to conceal a crime. What was that crime? It appears to be ‘a scheme… to influence the 2016 presidential election by identifying and purchasing negative information about [Trump] to suppress its publication’. But that is not a crime, either. Like paying off a porn star, the practice of ‘catch and kill’ – buying the exclusive rights to a news story to make sure it is never published – is a common practice. How could the crime Trump was trying to hide not be a crime? Well, Bragg explains, in order to do this otherwise legal act, Trump and his team ‘violated election laws’ by, you guessed it, falsifying business records.
In other words, the second crime which is supposed to justify the first crime being bumped up to the level of a felony is… the first crime. ‘The scheme violated New York election law, which makes it a crime to conspire to promote a candidacy by unlawful means’, Bragg explained at a press conference on Tuesday. ‘The $130,000 wire payment exceeded the federal-campaign-contribution cap and the false [business] statements… violated New York law’, he added.

But, as we’ve established, the ‘unlawful means’ by which Trump promoted his candidacy was a misdemeanour at best, like the falsified business records. Nevertheless, this is the ‘crime’ that Bragg alleges was being illegally covered up.
As ABC news contributor Sarah Isgur put it, we now ‘need a third crime’ in order for this ‘charge to work’.


It’s nonsense. I’m no legal expert, but it’s clear you can’t have two felonies that rely on each other to exist as such. Of course, more evidence of greater crimes may come out during trial. But based on what we know now, and based on Bragg’s press conference, there is no felony there.

Bragg keeps insisting that no one should be above the law, not even Donald Trump. But this looks like the kind of legal shenanigans that would only be configured for Donald Trump – the foe of the over-credentialed elites.

 

[Temujin]

 

[Temujin]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643632082780913665

 

[Kieppie]

Not a legal eagle so I cannot assess whether the arguments being made here are worthwhile but on the face of it, Bragg seems to have made quite a weak case.

Trump’s great crime is to have stood up to the elites

This incoherent indictment makes a mockery of the law.

www.spiked-online.com

Some legal eagles have called it book keeping disputes being paraded as felonies.

As to Trump's biggest crime?
It's not hiring the right people or draining the swamp while having his hands tied.
A likely never to be repeated missed opportunity.

 

[Kieppie]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643632082780913665

Shame, John doesn't know what the word "State-affiliated" means.
They should apply it to all outlets that receive any funding from government, whether this be BBC, SABC or what have you.
So the lack of consistency is the only real issue.

 

[Dave]

Is Pence going to throw Trumpie under the bus?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643687459627180043

 

[Temujin]

Shame, John doesn't know what the word "State-affiliated" means.

This kills me though

stands for freedom of speech & holding the powerful accountable

What a bunch of clowns

 

[wbot]

Everyone sending their best.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643276322746306561

Hmm smells like another Dontarius type actor tbh

 

[Kieppie]

Is Pence going to throw Trumpie under the bus?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643687459627180043

I'm putting my money on this being a right boring event.

 

[Dave]

I'm putting my money on this being a right boring event.

How old is your photo? Isn't that Ruth Bader Ginsburg who died some time ago?

 

[Kieppie]

How old is your photo? Isn't that Ruth Bader Ginsburg who died some time ago?

Yep she died of boredom brought on by Pence testifying.
Viewer discretion is advised.

 

[SNLV30]

Joaquin Castro
stated on April 28, 2023 in a tweet:
“Title 42 and other Trump-era holdovers are forcing migrants into dangerous, overcrowded conditions in Mexico.”

PolitiFact - U.S. policies, and other factors, lead to overcrowded conditions for migrants in Mexico

A fire in a migrant center in a northern Mexican border city killed 39 immigrant men. Some of them were waiting for an a

www.politifact.com

I can't send a screenshot from my phone, so had to copy/paste.

How do fact checkers get the date wrong?

 

[Pudding McTwinkle]

So a thumbsuck? Gotcha. Once again, get on a plane and stop making broad assumptions based on what you see on the internet.

Lol.

 

[quovadis]

Stormy lies, that much has been pretty consistent. The fact that she ends up having to pay Trump or his lawyers just makes it even more ironic.
Johnny won his case, much to the chagrin of a certain member here, the difference is merit and evidence.

She'll never be able to repay the fines, except perhaps by Dem donations for her "performance" in this trial.

Hey, if Trump wants his tweets to be characterized as tweets which "constitute 'rhetorical hyperbole'” that’s not good. Don’t take his tweets literally from now on. Bwahaha.

 

[quovadis]

Not sure of the veracity of the claims but at face value pretty disturbing…

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643776088391446528

 

[quovadis]

Pretty sane analysis …

What Trump's business fraud charges mean – a former prosecutor explains the 34 felony counts and obstacles ahead for Manhattan's DA

False business records – not hush money payments – are at the heart of New York’s prosecution of former President Donald Trump. But not all the alleged crimes have been revealed.

theconversation.com

 

[quovadis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643776834188787715

 

[quovadis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643594456967282688

 

[rietrot]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643594456967282688

They aren't editorially independent. That fits the definition of state affiliated media.

It isn't that hard.