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cerebus

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DeSantis now saying that big corporations are exempted from free speech protections:


"There's some people that criticize us in Florida because we've taken action to stand up to big tech companies," DeSantis said Sunday evening. "They say you know what, it's private. Let them do what they want to do. First of all, they cannot be viewed as private entities given that we know without a shadow of a doubt they are doing the regime's bidding when it comes to censorship."
 

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DeSantis now saying that big corporations are exempted from free speech protections:

Miss this part?
First of all, they cannot be viewed as private entities given that we know without a shadow of a doubt they are doing the regime's bidding when it comes to censorship."

From the Lizard Himself:

Zuckerberg told Rogan: "The background here is that the FBI came to us - some folks on our team - and was like 'hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert. We thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election, we have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump that's similar to that'."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532
 

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I actually quoted that part directly. He's saying that he can freely ignore free speech for corporations if it goes against his agenda, but free speech totally counts if corporations are funnelling dark money to his campaigns because that's against the 'regime'.
Let me introduce you to the term: State actor

There are a number of situations where the United States Supreme Court has recognized the conduct of individuals or private organizations to be "state action," and therefore subject to provisions of the Constitution such as Equal Protection, Due Process, or the First Amendment. Equal Protection is guaranteed under Section I of the 14th Amendment[2] and Due Process is guaranteed under the 5th Amendment.[3] The Supreme Court has held the following:

  • Merely opening up a business to the public is not state action, but the performance of a "public function" (a function that has been traditionally and exclusively performed by the state) is state action (Marsh v. Alabama, 326 U.S. 501 (1946));
  • If an individual or organization merely enters into a contract or asserts a contractual right outside of court it is not state action, but if an individual or organization sues to judicially enforce a contractual right it is state action (Shelley v. Kraemer, 334 U.S. 1 (1948));
  • If the government merely acquiesces in the performance of an act by a private individual or organization it is not state action, but if the government coerces, influences, or encourages the performance of the act, it is state action (Rendell-Baker v. Kohn, 457 U.S. 830 (1982));
  • If the government merely enters into a contract with an individual or organization for the goods or services, the actions of the private party are not state action, but if the government and the private party enter into a "joint enterprise" or a "symbiotic relationship" with each other it is state action (Burton v. Wilmington Parking Authority, 365 U.S. 715 (1961));
  • If government agencies are simply members of a private organization, the actions of the organization are not state action, but if the government is "pervasively entwined" with the leadership of the private organization, the acts of the organization are state action (Brentwood Academy v. Tennessee Secondary School Athletic Association, 535 U.S. 971 (2002)).

When Facebook was asked to police "misinformation" on behalf of the FBI, they very likely turned themselves into a state actor. Which means that state actor is subject to protecting the 1st amendment in the same way that the State must protect it.

And just be clear, the FBI wasn't getting a court order to get information about an individual, they were asking Facebook to actively censor "misinformation", which the US government is not allowed to do.
 
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DeSantis now saying that big corporations are exempted from free speech protections:

When you get involved in controversial social topics, don't expect protection because through your actions you are trying to influence the general public and not just Disney's customers. They are no longer private corporations.
 

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When you get involved in controversial social topics, don't expect protection because through your actions you are trying to influence the general public and not just Disney's customers. They are no longer private corporations.

Same exact logic goes for donating money to Super PACs. Sorry you have to be consistent here.
 

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I actually quoted that part directly. He's saying that he can freely ignore free speech for corporations if it goes against his agenda, but free speech totally counts if corporations are funnelling dark money to his campaigns because that's against the 'regime'.
Whoo "dark money"

 

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The state of the US :ROFL:

Velma Dinkley, the character from the beloved cartoon “Scooby-Doo,” has been dubbed a “Karen” for her ability to call police on Black characters in a new video game. Following backlash, the game has changed her powers.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...alling-powers-video-game-brand-kare-rcna47317

#BLM #DefundPolice #SafeSpaces

Edit: The link doesn't work because the URL contains the word "Do0s" :X3:
 
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Jan 6 Committee is still moving forward and it just escalated the stakes:


DOJ issues 40 new subpoenas, seizes phones in Jan. 6 probe: report​


The Justice Department issued roughly 40 subpoenas over the past week and seized the phones of two top Trump advisors — a dramatic move in the criminal probe into the former president’s role in the Jan. 6 riot.

The department issued the subpoenas to close allies of former President Donald Trump and seized the phones of longtime Trump adviser Boris Epshteyn and campaign strategist Mike Roman, the New York Times reported Monday, citing sources familiar with the probe.

Federal agents seized the two men’s phones as evidence last week, the sources said.
 

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Let me introduce you to the term: State actor



When Facebook was asked to police "misinformation" on behalf of the FBI, they very likely turned themselves into a state actor. Which means that state actor is subject to protecting the 1st amendment in the same way that the State must protect it.

And just be clear, the FBI wasn't getting a court order to get information about an individual, they were asking Facebook to actively censor "misinformation", which the US government is not allowed to do.
Speaking of state actors, have you seen articles about this already?


No lives will be saved by this measure despite their claims. All this does is effectively create an gun registry for the government which has long been illegal for them to do as per previous regulations. Next up is the banks. Oh and what they neglect to mention in this article is that they can essentially block transactions based on this code.
Love it when politicians lie and say "It’s just common sense". I'm quite a fan of their uneven application of the cardies line "If it saves just one life".
I guess those bailouts for the credit card companies came with some strings.

The fascists on the thread will likely love this. I mean just go to your favourite historical figure to see how such things can turn out.
 

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Speaking of state actors, have you seen articles about this already?


No lives will be saved by this measure despite their claims. All this does is effectively create an gun registry for the government which has long been illegal for them to do as per previous regulations. Next up is the banks. Oh and what they neglect to mention in this article is that they can essentially block transactions based on this code.
Love it when politicians lie and say "It’s just common sense". I'm quite a fan of their uneven application of the cardies line "If it saves just one life".
I guess those bailouts for the credit card companies came with some strings.

The fascists on the thread will likely love this. I mean just go to your favourite historical figure to see how such things can turn out.
Abortion bans save more than just one life :laugh:
 

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LOL!

Jan 6 Committee is still moving forward and it just escalated the stakes:


DOJ issues 40 new subpoenas, seizes phones in Jan. 6 probe: report​


 
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