US Politics: Bike tricks

[Howdy]

Ok I'm going to ignore the argument regarding sheltering migrants in my own backyard and the cost in doing so.

What I will address is that the border towns across the entire southern border in terms of violent crime are around 15% on AVERAGE lower than the national average despite migrant population. If you look at Del Rio, Texas it's violence and property crime is at a rate of 106 incidents per 100,000. Lima, Ohio with the same population of Del Rio is almost 7x that.

Okay, I'll ignore your deflection and deflect to the costs of climate control ... do you want stats? That solves it ...?

 

[quovadis]

Okay, I'll ignore your deflection and deflect to the costs of climate control ... do you want stats? That solves it ...?

Really wasn't deflection. But sure, to Tesla or not to Tesla?

 

[Kieppie]

Sure guy - close to a billion dollars increase is peanuts. The CBP budget alone is greater than most country's military budgets.

I'm sure you're capable of calculating percentages...

Pity they couldn't whip up 8 more votes. That's on the GOP.

No. That's on the partisan Dems. Trump broke people's brains unfortunately.
Just see the Dems moaning the last two years about Reps not voting with them, more of the same.

 

[rvZA]

More migrants arrive at Harris' home after VP pitches citizenship as 'solution'​

Harris indicated that a bill providing a pathway to citizenship for those in the country illegally would also be part of the solution, as well as billions to help migrants stay in their home countries.

So, it seems that Biden and Harris is indeed bringing in voters for the Democrat party. Most of these many millions who crossed the borders the past year will likely be citizens before 2024.

 

[Howdy]

Really wasn't deflection. But sure, to Tesla or not to Tesla?

You're so slow, we're now onto grey vs blue vs green hydrogen. Keep up!

 

[Howdy]

Migrant population <> Illegal aliens.
Also Lima has a gang problem

It just occurs to me you do everything within you abilities to make your environment a desirable one, one where kids are safe, one where businesses can flourish etc ... then some idiot half way across the states in a place like Martha's Whineyard decides you deserve more crime and slums because you're not at the average due to you not following unrealistic ideology based policies not turning your area into a war zone like Seattle, LA or Portland.

 

[Kieppie]

More moronic decisions from the great NYC. Then again, uneducated people are a boon for them.

850 more unvaxxed NYC teachers, aides fired for not complying with mandate

The city Department of Education has axed another 850 teachers and classroom aides for failure to comply with a vaccine mandate increasingly struck down in court.

nypost.com

 

[Kieppie]

It just occurs to me you do everything within you abilities to make your environment a desirable one, one where kids are safe, one where businesses can flourish etc ... then some idiot half way across the states in a place like Martha's Whineyard decides you deserve more crime and slums because you're not at the average due to you not following unrealistic ideology based policies not turning your area into a war zone like Seattle, LA or Portland.

More importantly is those people that went through the legal avenues to enter the country and then work hard have to see people breaking the law jump the queue and get defended more than they themselves are.
Yet people wonder why established Hispanic voters are turning Republican

 

[quovadis]

I'm sure you're capable of calculating percentages...

Then you'll understand they're doing more enforcement with less - ya know percentage wise.

No. That's on the partisan Dems. Trump broke people's brains unfortunately.
Just see the Dems moaning the last two years about Reps not voting with them, more of the same.

I'd argue the Dems have had more Republicans vote on their bills than the reverse but that's beyond the point. You want reform then get it done.

 

[Kieppie]

Then you'll understand they're doing more enforcement with less - ya know percentage wise.

They are overworked, hence less effective and even more illegals slipping through the net. Which is why we're seeing a surge in the number of crimes across the country involving illegals.

I'd argue the Dems have had more Republicans vote on their bills than the reverse but that's beyond the point. You want reform then get it done.

Yes quite simply because the Republicans are much more reasonable as a whole. We'll see what happens once they retake the house and senate.
However as they are extremely unlikely to surpass the 60 vote threshold in the senate I'm not holding my breath on them being able to accomplish much.

 

[Kieppie]

Some common sense being shown.
Now if only the politicians would stop weaponing these incidents to further their misguided objectives.

Mass shootings and the media: Is the press making it worse?

Yes, according to a growing body of research the press do make mass shootings worse, says criminologist Adam Lankford.

reason.com

 

[quovadis]

They are overworked, hence less effective and even more illegals slipping through the net. Which is why we're seeing a surge in the number of crimes across the country involving illegals.

Allegedly but with no cited data to support this crimewave of illegal migrants.

Yes quite simply because the Republicans are much more reasonable as a whole. We'll see what happens once they retake the house and senate.
However as they are extremely unlikely to surpass the 60 vote threshold in the senate I'm not holding my breath on them being able to accomplish much.

if they don't take the house and senate I guess it'll be stolen, right? And if they do, it'll be legitimate, right? Sounds reasonable.

 

[Kieppie]

Allegedly but with no cited data to support this crimewave of illegal migrants.

The increase in crime numbers by illegals is well documented. Symptom of those that slip through the net.

if they don't take the house and senate I guess it'll be stolen, right? And if they do, it'll be legitimate, right? Sounds reasonable.

Who said that? They are doing their best to try and "fortify" the coming midterms though. Same old same old.
Gaslighting to the moon in the next few weeks...

 

[quovadis]

The increase in crime numbers by illegals is well documented. Symptom of those that slip through the net.

Great, where do I find these documented and verified statistics?

Who said that? They are doing their best to try and "fortify" the coming midterms though. Same old same old.
Gaslighting to the moon in the next few weeks...

Republicans.

 

[Kieppie]

Great, where do I find these documented and verified statistics?

Already used my one allowed CNN source today, so here's another source just for you

Crimes committed by illegal immigrants surged in 2021 after declining in previous years

The number of crimes committed by illegal immigrants surged during fiscal year 2021, including a 1,900% increase in murders and a 400% increase in assaults and domestic violence.

www.foxnews.com

Or just go here

Republicans.

As I said.. "fortified"

 

[Temujin]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1570992503716974597

 

[quovadis]

Already used my one allowed CNN source today, so here's another source just for you

Crimes committed by illegal immigrants surged in 2021 after declining in previous years

The number of crimes committed by illegal immigrants surged during fiscal year 2021, including a 1,900% increase in murders and a 400% increase in assaults and domestic violence.

www.foxnews.com

Or just go here


As I said.. "fortified"

So let's look at the most worst crime of Homicide using the highest figure provided. So the US had around 22000 homicides in 2021 - of which 60 were noncitizen perpetrators. So 0.27% at an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the US that would be 12x more citizens committing murders than illegal immigrants.

 

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Did they have a falling out? I thought they were buds

 

[Kieppie]

So let's look at the most worst crime of Homicide using the highest figure provided. So the US had around 22000 homicides in 2021 - of which 60 were noncitizen perpetrators. So 0.27% at an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the US that would be 12x more citizens committing murders than illegal immigrants.

Note the difference between convictions and crime, not all homicide is crime.
An older study, over a 6 year period ('12-'18), specific to Texas had the figure at x2. Will this be lower or higher given the increases seen in the last two years?
However comparing to citizens is irrelevant anyway. It's an increase that should not be there in the first place. Would be interesting if they analyzed how the increase supply of lower skilled labour will impact the propensity of others to turn towards crime.

Also we were talking about the increase in crimes committed by illegals and that has been proven.

 

[quovadis]

Note the difference between convictions and crime, not all homicide is crime.
An older study, over a 6 year period ('12-'18), specific to Texas had the figure at x2. Will this be lower or higher given the increases seen in the last two years?
However comparing to citizens is irrelevant anyway. It's an increase that should not be there in the first place. Would be interesting if they analyzed how the increase supply of lower skilled labour will impact the propensity of others to turn towards crime.

Also we were talking about the increase in crimes committed by illegals and that has been proven.

Keep moving that goal post. I didn't consider convictions but it would be even more rare if you consider not all arrests lead to convictions. Not quite sure why you don't understand the importance of establishing a baseline.

Anyhow, still seems much of a nothing-burger when placed in context unless you want to promote baseless fear.