US Politics: Bike tricks

[quovadis]

Thankfully Abrams won't be winning her election this year.

Definitely not "beyond QAnon sh**t" - that stuff is batsh--t crazy.

 

[r00igev@@r]

Yesterday was a good day for the batsh--t crazy

 

[quovadis]

 

[konfab]

1. Ships immigrants to 'lawyer island'
2. Immigrants get lawyered up

businessinsider.com/florida-officials-made-fake-brochures-for-migrants-lawsuit-ron-desantis-2022-9?international=true&r=US&IR=T

Florida officials made fake 'official-looking' brochure advertising refugee benefits for migrants, lawsuit against Ron DeSantis says​

Interesting lawsuit that one.

They claim that they are legally in the US because they "claimed" asylum.
Well if they are legally in the US, then there isn't any law being broken by then going to another state. Getting a free ticket to one of the nicest places to live in the US is now being trafficked?

Sure, if it was a Democrat controlled city like Chicago, I could imagine getting a free ticket to there would be a human rights violation, but Martha's Vineyard?

 

[konfab]

If I came to you and handed you a bunch of brochures promising you a job in another part of the country then shipped you out on false pretences, then it turned out that I was just doing it for a grotesque political stunt and there were no jobs and nobody even prepared to take them in so those people had to suddenly scramble to find accommodation and care for you, I think you'd have a pretty good case against me.

Every politician that says they will create jobs would then be guilty of fraud.

Why couldn't Martha's Vineyard take them? I thought immigrants were welcome at all Democrat strongholds?

 

[konfab]

The locals stepped up as best they could, till they could be moved to an emergency shelter at Cape Cod.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1570223926155874305

Migrants land on Martha's Vineyard - The Martha's Vineyard Times

Updated September 15 A group 50 Venezuelan migrants, some of them children, landed on Martha’s Vineyard on Wednesday. The migrants arrived by plane at Martha’s Vineyard Airport. According to Geoff Freeman, airport director at Martha’s Vineyard Airport, the name of the charter was Ultimate Air...

www.mvtimes.com

Sorry, I know DeSantis wanted to prove that everyone is as much of a racist pig as he is, but he failed and now he's being sued.

Why is De Santos being racist? Martha's Vineyard is good enough for Barack Obama. Why isn't it good enough for an illegal immigrant.

 

[konfab]

Martha's Vineyard is not equipped to provide sustainable accommodation and services. Are you expecting them to establish one when there are existing facilities available elsewhere? The national guard was utilised as they have the resources, equipment and are best placed to assist.

Border towns are not equipped to deal with immigrants either. So why are border towns expected to deal with them?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Definitely not "beyond QAnon sh**t" - that stuff is batsh--t crazy.

No, it really is.

 

[quovadis]

Border towns are not equipped to deal with immigrants either. So why are border towns expected to deal with them?

Pretty sure they have federal agencies, centers and facilities in place which are funded by the federal govt.

 

[quovadis]

No, it really is.

I know it’s real - it’s the issue with facts

 

[MunosMachos]

The so-called leaders of the "rules-based international order" are using illegal immigrants for political theatre. When the working class wake up to this it will be interesting times for the "elites".

 

[konfab]

Pretty sure they have federal agencies, centers and facilities in place which are funded by the federal govt.

All of them are overflowing in border towns. Which means the government just releases them onto the streets and lets the residents deal with them.

 

[quovadis]

All of them are overflowing in border towns. Which means the government just releases them onto the streets and lets the residents deal with them.

And there are no plans underway to address this using cities with infrastructure and shelter to support them?

You think it's much more practical to round up some asylum-seekers fraudulently promising cash, jobs, housing and other incentives in a neighbouring state and abandon them elsewhere with no plans, advanced warning or ethical/legal consideration at an exorbitant cost to the taxpayers of a state with no mass-migration issues?

 

[konfab]

And there are no plans underway to address this using cities with infrastructure and shelter to support them?

You think it's much more practical to round up some asylum-seekers fraudulently promising cash, jobs, housing and other incentives in a neighbouring state and abandon them elsewhere with no plans, advanced warning or ethical/legal consideration at an exorbitant cost to the taxpayers of a state with no mass-migration issues?

It isn't just a neighbouring state. It is a state that explicitly voted for the president responsible for letting in the migrants in the first place.

The only reason why Democrat states love illegal immigrants is because they don't have to deal with them. All this policy does is make the people who vote for lax borders feel the consequences of lax borders.

A Democrat judge in a Democrat state made it illegal for a state police officer to enforce federal immigration law:

In 2017, Massachusetts' top state court ruled that Massachusetts court officers do not have the authority to arrest someone suspected of being in the U.S. illegally if that person is not facing criminal charges, the state's highest court ruled Monday. That's effectively gave the state sanctuary status.

But for years, advocates have tried to get a bill that would codify sanctuary status in Massachusetts, and it hasn't passed, despite Democrats, who tend to support sanctuary status more than Republicans, controlling the Legislature.

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/is-massachusetts-a-sanctuary-state/2835474/

Why is it unethical thing to send illegal immigrants to a place that gives them huge legal protection from being deported?

Ands if they are in the country legally as asylum seekers, what is illegal about giving them a free ticket to a place fit for presidents? Why aren't there jobs for asylum seekers in Martha's Vineyard? I thought Democrat states were meant to be pro poor with pro-poor policies?

 

[quovadis]

It isn't just a neighbouring state. It is a state that explicitly voted for the president responsible for letting in the migrants in the first place.

The only reason why Democrat states love illegal immigrants is because they don't have to deal with them. All this policy does is make the people who vote for lax borders feel the consequences of lax borders.

A Democrat judge in a Democrat state made it illegal for a state police officer to enforce federal immigration law:

It seems you're missing the point - Let's talk facts.

1) Why must Florida taxpayers pay for relocation of immigrants that were brought to Florida by Desantis himself?
2) Federal immigration policy is law and isn't exactly unilateral. Any judge would enforce it as written.
3) Of the top 20 states with the highest percentage of immigrants in the country only 2 aren't Democrat based on the previous presidential election.
4) The establishment of sanctuary cities can be more credited to Republicans than Democrats.
5) Federal immigration law is enforced by federal agents and there are a ton of them along the southern border.

Why is it unethical thing to send illegal immigrants to a place that gives them huge legal protection from being deported?

1) Asylum-seekers aren't illegal immigrants.
2) Misrepresentation or false promises/statements is fraud. That's unethical.
3) Sanctuary cities don't prevent you from being deported. They just leave immigration enforcement to those tasked with the job.

Ands if they are in the country legally as asylum seekers, what is illegal about giving them a free ticket to a place fit for presidents? Why aren't there jobs for asylum seekers in Martha's Vineyard? I thought Democrat states were meant to be pro poor with pro-poor policies?

1) I think it's been covered above but enticing someone with bullsh--t which isn't a reality is fraud. If I promise you a job, housing and free cash for 8 months and you come here and it's all bullshit that's illegal - migrant or otherwise.
2) Asylum-seekers aren't employment authorised until their case is finalised.
3) Democrat states are very much more pro-poor.

 

[cerebus]

 

[konfab]

In a statement provided to Rolling Stone, Cruz press secretary Dave Vasquez argued that the bill Cruz voted against — and which, again, funded the project he’s claiming credit for — was a “Democrat spending spree that contributed to an economic recession for American families,” and that “Ports-to-Plains could have easily and unanimously passed the Senate as a separate bill, but it was rolled into the pork-filled omnibus package Democrats rammed through Congress.”

He should have just kept his mouth shut.

It is a major problem I have with the way they fund things in the US. They love shoving millions of things into bills. It's not as if there is a paper shortage. For example, there was kvetching about a bill Republicans shot down that had a provision to make election day a holiday. Which probably would fly though the senate had it not been attached to a million other things.

 

[Emjay]

Lets hope he gets a jail sentence similar to James Alex Fields, but I'm guessing not anywhere close

Those that were concerned so much by the death of Heather Heyer are really showing their bipartisanship by condemning the killing of young Cayler Ellingson.

Next up: articles calling for Biden to stop inciting violence by calling Trump supporters extremists.

Not.

 

[Emjay]

From the side of "tolerance".

The thread is pretty funny too.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1572410358081490944

 

[Gyre]

From the side of "tolerance".

The thread is pretty funny too.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1572410358081490944

The violent libs - one guy kicked the projector over?

A guy in Texas probably does that same kick to his wife twice a week