[USA] Four dead after shooting at US high school

They have? I mean some states have stricter controls than others, but seeing as you can just pop across state lines it's not really of any effect.

And if it was strict everywhere then they can just pop across the Mexican border so it’s not really of any effect either.
 
They have? I mean some states have stricter controls than others, but seeing as you can just pop across state lines it's not really of any effect.
Not sure what specifically you are referring to ? Remember there are federal and state laws regarding FA's in the U S of A, unlike in South Africa.
 
And if it was strict everywhere then they can just pop across the Mexican border so it’s not really of any effect either.
Well at least there's a border post there.

I mean if they want to police people going cross state for abortions, they could work something out for guns surely?
 
That's exactly what I'm referring to.
What being intentionally obtuse ?

Like there aren't any gun control laws in the USA, and they haven't introduced stricter laws, policies, regulations etc over the last decade.
You are quite forgetful, I've provided you research on the other thread regarding stricter gun control laws, however, you brush it off, it was concluded that "stricter gun control" does NOT reduce crime, violence etc...
 
What being intentionally obtuse ?

Like there aren't any gun control laws in the USA, and they haven't introduced stricter laws, policies, regulations etc over the last decade.
You are quite forgetful, I've provided you research on the other thread regarding stricter gun control laws, however, you brush it off, it was concluded that "stricter gun control" does NOT reduce crime, violence etc...
The US is a country with huge gun ownership. It's also a country with a massive gun problem.

If you can't see the connection that's cool.
 
The US is a country with huge gun ownership. It's also a country with a massive gun problem.

If you can't see the connection that's cool.
What I'm trying to convey is that stricter laws, regulations, and policies etc regarding FA's , isn't going to do much, as has been proven by research.
 
I mean some states have stricter controls than others, but seeing as you can just pop across state lines it's not really of any effect.

You and others keep repeating that even though people have told you that's not how it works.
 
The US is a country with huge gun ownership. It's also a country with a massive gun problem.

If you can't see the connection that's cool.

So you are saying the level of gun related crime is directly proportional to the number of guns in society?
 
and stricter gun control is going to solve all of this ... right ?
Would it hurt?

Stricter gun control would be a first step in addressing the accessibility level, but the more important factor to a solution would be to pinpoint why Americans are so violent and fearful as to believe that they need a personal arsenal of weaponry at the ready. What are they subconsciously feeling guilty about, because that is the only reasonable explanation for such extremist level refusal of even basic regulation.
 
Would it hurt?

Stricter gun control would be a first step in addressing the accessibility level, but the more important factor to a solution would be to pinpoint why Americans are so violent and fearful as to believe that they need a personal arsenal of weaponry at the ready. What are they subconsciously feeling guilty about, because that is the only reasonable explanation for such extremist level refusal of even basic regulation.
Yes, waste of resources, money, time, effort etc,
It has already been said numerous times, it's a mental health problem, a socio-economic problem, family values, and then there's just the evil (criminality) problem also, but it's NOT an object problem.
What I'm trying to convey is that stricter laws, regulations, and policies etc regarding FA's , isn't going to do much, as has been proven by research, even right here in South Africa.
 
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Killer's idiotic gun-nut father (who named his stupid son after a gun) arrested too. The moron gave the the gun as a Christmas present.

What is a gun-nut ?
Nothing wrong with purchasing a FA as a gift to someone.
Did you read the entire article? FBI and law enforcement was aware of something, and apparently he did try to reach out regarding mental health issues.
 
Countries with strict firearm control have stabbings instead - more dead in Southport from a knife than this dooos with an AR15. Perhaps yanks are not very good shots!
 
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