vaccination side effects

[Daveogg]

Okay. Well let's see if I'm struggling with it.

How is that different to 'majority'?

Concensus: a general agreement about something.
Majority: the greater number.

We all know you are philosophically biased against any consensus. It's ok we understand.

 

[MrJayBoy]

Judging by the way you structure a sentence, Im assuming you are anti-vax.

thanks for proving my point

 

[lexity]

Okay. Well let's see if I'm struggling with it.

How is that different to 'majority'?

Concensus: a general agreement about something.
Majority: the greater number.

We all know you are philosophically biased against any consensus. It's ok we understand.

I see. So a 'general' agreement could be among a minority, then, right?

 

[maumau]

I am no medical expert, by any stretch of any imagination but I can tell you, these vaccinations have harmed me.

I am just tired of fighting, so letting it slide, if I die tomorrow then its my time.
But not fun living with the permanent side effects.

Oh my word! Are your side effects so bad and are you sure it's from the jab? Not questioning you, just interested.

 

[Daveogg]

I see. So a 'general' agreement could be among a minority, then, right?

For sure I am sure there is concensus in your echo chamber.

 

[lexity]

For sure I am sure there is concensus in your echo chamber.

Okay. So if an echo-chamber is formed from a minority, a majority would form a bigger echo-chamber.

Right?

 

[PaulMurkin]

Oh my word! Are your side effects so bad and are you sure it's from the jab? Not questioning you, just interested.

The issues started directly after jab 1 and never stopped
Both injections made me extremely sick and I missed 1.5 weeks off work in total.

I've taken a long holiday, I've done all I can but the signs are there, something is wrong and I cannot afford the specialists to have a long proper look.

All I know is it started with those jabs, and in hindsight, I wouldn't have done it if I knew this was the outcome.

I don't talk about it to people because their reactions are what just puts me off.

 

[Spizz]

I see. So a 'general' agreement could be among a minority, then, right?

What point are you trying to prove here and why drop the context?

Call it a majority or a consensus, but either way, the advice to get vaccinated is an informed one among medical professionals.

It doesn’t matter how you try to spin the semantics.

 

[pouroverguy]

The issues started directly after jab 1 and never stopped
Both injections made me extremely sick and I missed 1.5 weeks off work in total.

I've taken a long holiday, I've done all I can but the signs are there, something is wrong and I cannot afford the specialists to have a long proper look.

All I know is it started with those jabs, and in hindsight, I wouldn't have done it if I knew this was the outcome.

I don't talk about it to people because their reactions are what just puts me off.

Really sorry to hear that you have been so unlucky. You truly are unlucky, because you are one of the incredibly rare few to actually get significant side effects from the vaccine. What symptoms are you having? Have you considered the public system? It's not all bad on the public side - if you could get a referral letter to see a specialist as a tertiary center in Durban, Joburg, Cape Town and a few other places, you would get access to some of the best doctors in the country.

And while it definitely does sound vaccine related, please also remember that people get rare diseases and problems all the time that have nothing to do with the vaccine . It could be something not vaccine related that is treatable if diagnosed by a qualified specialist. Many people every day are diagnosed with chronic infections, cancer, autoimmune diseases and also happen to have been vaccinated recently, and the vaccine has nothing to do with it. If you're sick, you really do need a full work up.

 

[PaulMurkin]

Really sorry to hear that you have been so unlucky. You truly are unlucky, because you are one of the incredibly rare few to actually get significant side effects from the vaccine. What symptoms are you having? Have you considered the public system? It's not all bad on the public side - if you could get a referral letter to see a specialist as a tertiary center in Durban, Joburg, Cape Town and a few other places, you would get access to some of the best doctors in the country.

I will try the public side, the problem is it will have to wait until this fekking heat has gone.. because you stand in long lines for hours at the clinics.

Permanent issues that began in 2021:
1. Lack of energy
2. Joint pains (I am consuming 2 boxes of Mypaid Forte a month to get by)
3. Hormones are now screwed (weight gain, weight loss, flushing, no libido, breakouts on skin.
4. Mental fog
5. Persistent ear gunk

Coincidence, I hope so, but I don't think so.

 

[Spizz]

I will try the public side, the problem is it will have to wait until this fekking heat has gone.. because you stand in long lines for hours at the clinics.

Permanent issues that began in 2021:
1. Lack of energy
2. Joint pains (I am consuming 2 boxes of Mypaid Forte a month to get by)
3. Hormones are now screwed (weight gain, weight loss, flushing, no libido, breakouts on skin.
4. Mental fog
5. Persistent ear gunk

Coincidence, I hope so, but I don't think so.

Have you looked to see if anyone else has similar adverse reactions? Could be coincidence of course but having gone through my daughter getting a blood transfusion due to an adverse reaction to the MMR, I know these things do happen. I hope you come right man, she did after the docs stepped in.

 

[pouroverguy]

I will try the public side, the problem is it will have to wait until this fekking heat has gone.. because you stand in long lines for hours at the clinics.

Permanent issues that began in 2021:
1. Lack of energy
2. Joint pains (I am consuming 2 boxes of Mypaid Forte a month to get by)
3. Hormones are now screwed (weight gain, weight loss, flushing, no libido, breakouts on skin.
4. Mental fog
5. Persistent ear gunk

Coincidence, I hope so, but I don't think so.

Definitely doesn't sound good at all. Have you seen any doctor, and had blood tests? The range of possible diagnoses is broad, and requires a thorough workup.

 

[lexity]

I will try the public side, the problem is it will have to wait until this fekking heat has gone.. because you stand in long lines for hours at the clinics.

Permanent issues that began in 2021:
1. Lack of energy
2. Joint pains (I am consuming 2 boxes of Mypaid Forte a month to get by)
3. Hormones are now screwed (weight gain, weight loss, flushing, no libido, breakouts on skin.
4. Mental fog
5. Persistent ear gunk

Coincidence, I hope so, but I don't think so.

Thanks for sharing. It's appreciated but you realise that speaking this openly hurts your (future/)employment chances, right?

I would guess there are plenty who are not speaking openly.

 

[upup]

I will try the public side, the problem is it will have to wait until this fekking heat has gone.. because you stand in long lines for hours at the clinics.

Permanent issues that began in 2021:
1. Lack of energy
2. Joint pains (I am consuming 2 boxes of Mypaid Forte a month to get by)
3. Hormones are now screwed (weight gain, weight loss, flushing, no libido, breakouts on skin.
4. Mental fog
5. Persistent ear gunk

Coincidence, I hope so, but I don't think so.

Was there not a number to phone if you are not feeling well after a jab.
What i your age please.

 

[maumau]

The issues started directly after jab 1 and never stopped
Both injections made me extremely sick and I missed 1.5 weeks off work in total.

I've taken a long holiday, I've done all I can but the signs are there, something is wrong and I cannot afford the specialists to have a long proper look.

All I know is it started with those jabs, and in hindsight, I wouldn't have done it if I knew this was the outcome.

I don't talk about it to people because their reactions are what just puts me off.

Sorry to hear that @PaulMurkin

Obviously bad reactions are mentioned more often than when things go well but a family member, healthy guy broke out in a rash after his 1st jab. His back, neck and one arm are still affected and the rash dies down on one side and spreads on the other. He got the jab when they were first made available, so over a year ago and to this day his rash has never been completely gone. I see him often and the rash is still there.

Second problem was my sister's best friend who, the day after her first jab, got shingles which I imagined would be a raised area on the side of her face. She showed me a picture and her right eye was swollen shut the size of a golf ball and the right side of her face was swollen, violently red and shiney. Apparently it lasted 4-6 weeks then gradually subsided.

So..... I'll take conspiracy stories with a pinch of salt but those are my two personal adverse effect stories.

I also have a story pertaining to a death certificate but that's for another thread.

 

[Daveogg]

Okay. So if an echo-chamber is formed from a minority, a majority would form a bigger echo-chamber.

Right?

Unlike your anti-everything echo chamber, scientific concensus thrives on debate. Does the term Dephi process mean anything to you?

 

[lexity]

Sterility.

 

[expedite]

Ditto......

Ditto your prop man. Answer him properly or shut up

 

[lexity]

Unlike your anti-everything echo chamber, scientific concensus thrives on debate. Does the term Dephi process mean anything to you?

No. But that's not an English term. It's a technical term.

'Social media cencellation', on the other hand, does. MSM censorship does, too.

And btw.... I actually have zero problem with censorship.... as long as the person/group censoring is not funded through taxation, whether direct or indirect.

If you and voluntary supporters pay the price for being wrong... I salute you. You are putting your money where your mouth is.... as opposed to other peoples'(tax payers) money.

p.s. remember that sovereign debt socialization is currently portrayed as being acceptable... even laudable. Do you find it acceptable to force others to subsidize your persistent mistakes?

 

[lexity]

Concensus: a general agreement about something.
Majority: the greater number.

We all know you are philosophically biased against any consensus. It's ok we understand.

Who is 'we'?