vaccination side effects

PsyWulf

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Yeah yeah. When it suits you right? I've seen you vaxholes on here deriding and ridiculing others for quoting the same 'medium'.
If twitter or facebook is the actual reference,or it references jimstruthblog.really ,yes you've earned your derision
If it's discussing the actual studies and references then party hard

How stupid are you?
 

pouroverguy

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. You also don't compare the vaccine to the virus, you compare the vaccine to other treatments.

1. What other treatments are you talking about, exactly?
2. You definitely do compare the vaccine to the virus. The whole anti-vax agenda is that the vaccine is very dangerous to children, and COVID poses no risk. Natural immunity is better, bla bla bla. This is demonstrably false, as COVID does cause side effects to children, albeit rarely. Those that seemingly care so much about the risk of vaccine related myocarditis, but don't care about the numerous cardiac complications associated with COVID are disingenous and just looking to push their own agendas. Not to mention the other bodily systems that also rarely get affected by COVID.

Then makes it about hospitalization of kids but a lot of those 'cases' were kids hospitalized for other causes including other viruses.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say? The point is COVID does carry a risk of hospitalization to kids, ( due to mostly pulmonary complications but sometimes other things as well - arrhythmias, neurological problems, multi-system inflammatory syndrome etc). Hospitalization is rare, but it does occur. Not sure why you're saying the kids were hospitalized for other causes including other viruses?

and many are starting to question the need for multiple shots in a population at fairly low risk, and in a climate where the predominant variant of concern is even less harmful and escapes the current vaccines...

He clearly states: "Now, it's true that we don't know what the marginal benefit of second/third doses is on reducing these higher risks from COVID vs the increased risk from some vaccines of myocarditis. This is a complex question that almost certainly has a complex answer, and I can see why some people have recommended against boosters for teen boys in this context."

Also while he's an epidemiologist (studying for a PhD), his field has a track record of being very wrong about most things. SARS-1, Bird flu, H1N1 to name but a few were all thought to be pandemics resulting in mass amounts of death based on modelling.

A scientific discipline has a history of having made errors and being wrong about things? Well you could make that argument about just about any discipline if you want to go down that road... that doesn't delegitimize the entire field of epidemiology in 2022.
 
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lexity

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bunch of so called adults on here trying to tell other adults what to do with their own health and life choices. Always ends well ;) from both sides. MIND YOUR OWN FUDGING BUSINESS .
By all historical indications, one side will not adhere to that advice.

It appears as though in all previous instances, the belief was that we should all just try to get along better.

The reality proved that was a catastrophic decision.... for everyone, not just those minding their own business and keeping their mits to themselves.
 

RedViking

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bunch of so called adults on here trying to tell other adults what to do with their own health and life choices. Always ends well ;) from both sides. MIND YOUR OWN FUDGING BUSINESS .
So now you telling everyone what they should do. The irony.
 

lexity

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So now you telling everyone what they should do. The irony.
I think telling someone they may not force you to ingest something, is perfectly moral and perfectly legal.

Even if it should lead to the use of force, as long as that force is proportional to the original attack, such force would be legally considered self-defense.
 

RedViking

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ok troll.you can continue arguing over each others vax status..ill just sit here and not care
Clearly you are caring. Also standing on your head is not the same as sitting.

I think mandatory vax supporters should be held to the highest standard. They have to get vaccinated within a week from a new vax or booster being available or criminally charged. They should go for weekly tests and if they skip more than 3 tests in a row they should be criminally charged. The same should apply to their families in the same household. We should all shift our focus to keep mandatory vaxers accountable. They HAVE TO stay relevant. Mandatory vax supported must have a vaccination ID on them at all times and wear it in such a way for other to see and easy identify. It should also be colour coded so it matches the latest vaccine or booster available, and should one have the wrong coded ID they must immediately be reported. People are dying for goodness sake! Mandatory vaxers have to lead the way!

#StayAlive

#StayRelevant

#StayAccountable
 

MrJayBoy

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Clearly you are caring. Also standing on your head is not the same as sitting.

I think mandatory vax supporters should be held to the highest standard. They have to get vaccinated within a week from a new vax or booster being available or criminally charged. They should go for weekly tests and if they skip more than 3 tests in a row they should be criminally charged. The same should apply to their families in the same household. We should all shift our focus to keep mandatory vaxers accountable. They HAVE TO stay relevant. Mandatory vax supported must have a vaccination ID on them at all times and wear it in such a way for other to see and easy identify. It should also be colour coded so it matches the latest vaccine or booster available, and should one have the wrong coded ID they must immediately be reported. People are dying for goodness sake! Mandatory vaxers have to lead the way!

#StayAlive

#StayRelevant

#StayAccountable
Dont need to have the vax if you already tested positive and were asymptomatic.You know your body can handle it so why bother with the vax? are you still going too call for criminal charges for those people too? The vax doesnt stop virus transmission

Squirrel is tripled vaxed...he still got sick again. im not vaxed...had covid twice..didnt get sick at all. still want criminal charges laid against me?lol

Before you jump and say im anti vax or i do care just know i never asked your status because i do not care. you are a grown man or women or thing that can decide for him/her/its self.... what i do care about is being forced to do something
 
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RedViking

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Dont need to have the vax if you already tested positive and were asymptomatic.You know your body can handle it so why bother with the vax? are you still going too call for criminal charges for those people too? The vax doesnt stop virus transmission

Squirrel is tripled vaxed...he still got sick again. im not vaxed...had covid twice..didnt get sick at all. still want criminal charges laid against me?lol
Do you know what a mandatory vax supporter is?
 

RedViking

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do you know how dumb you sound calling for criminal charges?
How is this dumb? Mandatory Vax Supporters don't want anyone in a public building or space, work office or shop that has not received the vaccination. They want the hat guy to arrest you and drown you if you found without a passport. Therefor, it is only fair and right for them to be held to the highest possible standard there is, and if they don't comply, to face criminal charges. This is not a game. We are talking about real lives here. Mandatory Vaxers will lead by example.
 

MrJayBoy

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the vax does not stop virus transmission. the vax does not stop infection. It may help you recover quicker and have less severe complications. ie ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. you decide for yourself. even vaxed people can infect other vaxed people.
 
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lexity

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the vax does not stop virus transmission. the vax does not stop infection. It may help you recover quicker and have less severe complications. ie ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. you decide for yourself. even vaxed people can infect other vaxed people.
I'm hearing 5% of the batches are doing all the harm. The rest are relatively benign.

To confirm.
 

lexity

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How is this dumb? Mandatory Vax Supporters don't want anyone in a public building or space, work office or shop that has not received the vaccination. They want the hat guy to arrest you and drown you if you found without a passport. Therefor, it is only fair and right for them to be held to the highest possible standard there is, and if they don't comply, to face criminal charges. This is not a game. We are talking about real lives here. Mandatory Vaxers will lead by example.
Point taken, but ultimately the solution is not vindictive..... but it requires withdrawing support of these criminals... wholely.

You cannot say things, when they temporarily retreat, like.... well the push for totalitarianism is not so obvious now.

They are gathering and consolidating their wins from this round, and are going to come back even harder. You are not dealing with people who are reasonable. They have not backed off because you and I had a superior argument. That report of CR saying maybe there is a better argument for repealing DMA is utter political grooming i.e. manipulation.

If they leave it long enough, they are legally going to be held to account.

They are counting on being given the benefit of the doubt.... in the short term, and before enough time has passed they will be back again. Don't be fooled. The overall trajectory is still toward totalitarian controls.

The answer to the implied assertion that totalitarian controls are good for us, is to separate, jurisdictionally, without delay, all over the world.
 

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Has anyone here seen a published list of AEs and SAEs (Adverse Events/Serious Adverse Events) reported for any of the covid jabs, so far?

Haven't followed this thread from the start but maybe someone posted a link.

p.s. for reference: post #12
 
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