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Spizz

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I just can't imagine how possible the vaccine is "safe", any other vaccine that has the similar fatality rate and it is still promoted by the government which is "safe"?

furthermore, think about that, if a vaccine which already caused 11657 people died, will you take the vaccine or will you allow your child to take that?

Go have a look at aspirin deaths and Beyers profits then barricade yourself in your room.
 

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It seems quite the opposite to me There are opinions everywhere and fortunately just having an opinion doesn’t mean reputable institutions have to humour you.

Do you have specific instances in mind?
Yes.

A government asking a big-tech firm to help prevent 'misinformation', and the big tech/SM firm agreeing to co-operate.

e.g. Ex-Chancellor Merkel and Facebook
 

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Yes.

A government asking a big-tech firm to help prevent 'misinformation', and the big tech/SM firm agreeing to co-operate.

e.g. Ex-Chancellor Merkel and Facebook

You think it’s a good idea for Facebook to share misinformation?
 

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Yes.

A government asking a big-tech firm to help prevent 'misinformation', and the big tech/SM firm agreeing to co-operate.

e.g. Ex-Chancellor Merkel and Facebook

You have proof it wasn't misinformation?
 

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You think it’s a good idea for Facebook to share misinformation?
That implies it's not the consumer's responsibility to decide.

You are working from a premise that is incompatible with a free society and free markets.
 

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That implies it's not the consumer's responsibility to decide.

You are working from a premise that is incompatible with a free society and free markets.

Come on dude, have you seen some of the pure schite that @_Dog posts for example and believes it’s true in his gullible little heart? Time after time he’s told it’s rubbish and time after time he keeps posting new stuff.

Already it’s bad enough with all this kind of crud in community groups and forums like this, but do you think Facebook should have a team of people fact checking because c0vidisah0ax.com says Pfizer contains 5g chips?
 

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Pretty sure aspirin isn't mandated.

Neither is the vaccine.
In Western legal systems, an imminent, credible threat also qualifies as a crime.

If you threaten force by holding a gun to someone's head, and ask them nicely saying, "I would hate to pull this trigger, so help me to help you by handing over your wallet," you have compelled someone to comply using the threat of force. Even though you never actually pulled the trigger, and you were very polite, it's still a crime.

Even if they reply saying, "No, you're right... I'm sure you know better than me how to spend my money," nothing they say can be relied upon as credible evidence to excuse you from prosecution. Because they said it under duress. Nobody can be said to be consenting, when under duress.

When Fauci says when approval comes for drug X, 'mandates will come'. That should not be interpreted by sane citizens the world over in any other way than a threat of violence. Especially when it turns out trial data was sent to the DoD and to DHHS prior to forwarding it on to the regulator. Governments have been demonstrating compliance and complicity with those who have made direct threats.

They were offered an alternate scientific opinion, and chose to ignore it. Which is a pattern, with State actors and their protected cronies.

The fact that some governments have begun carrying out those threats makes defensive force all the more justified.. because the threat just became as credible as it needs to be.
 
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lexity

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Come on dude, have you seen some of the pure schite that @_Dog posts for example and believes it’s true in his gullible little heart? Time after time he’s told it’s rubbish and time after time he keeps posting new stuff.

Already it’s bad enough with all this kind of crud in community groups and forums like this, but do you think Facebook should have a team of people fact checking because c0vidisah0ax.com says Pfizer contains 5g chips?
Should I be free to take bad advice, if I'm free to mitigate against perceived risks, and nobody else is compelled to pay the price for my bad decisions?
 

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Go have a look at aspirin deaths and Beyers profits then barricade yourself in your room.

how many years ago? I am talking about "today".

don't twist for something that is absolutely meaningless and irreverent.

A few psychiatrists (including Sakel) claimed success rates for insulin coma therapy of over 80% in the treatment of schizophrenia.[10] A few others argued that it merely accelerated remission in those patients who would undergo remission anyway. The consensus at the time was somewhere in between, claiming a success rate of about 50% in patients who had been ill for less than a year (about double the spontaneous remission rate) with no influence on relapse

why don't you quote this as well? thousands of examples between 1850s to the early 1900s
 
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In Western legal systems, an imminent, credible threat also qualifies as a crime.

If you threaten force by holding a gun to someone's head, and ask them nicely saying, "I would hate to pull this trigger, so help me to help you by handing over your wallet," you have compelled someone to comply using the threat of force. Even though you never actually pulled the trigger, and you were very polite, it's still a crime.

Even if they reply saying, "No, you're right... I'm sure you know better than me how to spend my money," nothing they say can be relied upon as credible evidence to excuse you from prosecution. Because they said it under duress. Nobody can be said to be consenting, when under duress.

When Fauci says when approval comes for drug X, 'mandates will come'. That should not be interpreted by sane citizens the world over in any other way than a threat of violence. Especially when it turns out trial data was sent to the DoD and to DHHS prior to forwarding it on to the regulator. Governments have been demonstrating compliance and complicity with those who have made direct threats.

They were offered an alternate scientific opinion, and chose to ignore it. Which is a pattern, with State actors and their protected cronies
.

The fact that some governments have begun carrying out those threats makes defensive force all the more justified.. because the threat just became as credible as it needs to be.

What was the alternate scientific opinion?
 

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You have proof it wasn't misinformation?
I think you're missing the elephant in the room.

If you are a violent actor, you don't have to be objectively right, correct, accurate or truthful. This is why people turn to legalized crime. All the better if a lot of Polly-Annas look up to you in awe, and lick your boots.

Any ostensible attempt to engage in reasonable dialogue loses its credibility by the mere presence of the violent actor.
 

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What was the alternate scientific opinion?
There was more than one source, but in SA Panda led the way with data to convincingly show that lockdowns were not justified.

p.s. They were also advised the PCR test is not a diagnostic tool. They ignored that, too.... choosing instead to use the test to conflate a +PCR result with a case. Which massively elevated the perceived risk.

This has been used to drive the panic which can then be used to do the kinds of things that would never otherwise be tolerated but has a net positive effect for their profit margin - to the tune of billions in a very short space of time, and to set aside constitutional laws, permitting crime to be committed on a scale that we will never recover from.

To anyone who thinks they are smarter than 'their' government, they are not as stupid as you think they are. They know far better than you that their asses are on the line for what they have been papering over, whilst you were drinking the Koolaid courtesy of their media mouth-pieces.
 
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I’ve noticed a few times in the last couple of days that conversations with me have ended suddenly. I can only assume that the allegations and assumptions are all unfounded and when challenged there is no way to back them up.

They have a position and it seems like these guys aren’t for changing their minds anytime soon no matter how wrong they are.
Let's put this to the test.

You know if someone is engaging in dialogue/argumentation sincerely by how much they have to lose.... if it turns out they are wrong.

The two ends of the spectrum are:

1) Everything to lose, because they take ultimate responsibility for their decisions i.e. they advocate for an end to QA by violent means e.g. State-licensed goods/service providers. These also advocate to an end to taxation so they can deploy their full, legitimately-earned, wealth into their fellow community members projects, according to their own preference/according to merit on a case by case basis.

2) Nothing to lose, because they believe promises made to them that they won't personally have to pay the full cost of the price for being wrong. This bunch are regularly shirk responsibility for their own decision-making. They can't be consulted for their opinion, only the decision handed down to them from their higher power. In spite of their higher powers track-record.
 

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When I click the link it loads the video itself.

A commenter said that?

And.....?

It gives an idea which rabbit hole you are about to go down.
Until the next commenter gives you an opposite version.

Then, horror of horrors, you are required to make a decision. But will that involve viewing the content of the video?
 
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