vaccination side effects

[lexity]

I'm not familiar with that claim. But if you post a link to it, I'll listen to/watch it and give you my opinion on it.

Fact Check-No evidence graphene oxide is present in available COVID-19 vaccines via lipid nanoparticles​

Allegations that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the United States (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) are toxic because they contain graphene oxide on their lipid nanoparticles (which help transport the mRNA through the body) are baseless.
www.reuters.com

I asked for a link to the claim, not someone else's interpretation of it.

 

[lexity]

You are querying the source. Which, per se is fine. But if you stop there, it looks like you are refusing to take a position/form a judgement, on what she is saying.

Trying listening to the information being delivered in the video. Otherwise you can't really have an opinion about it.

I did listen to a bit of it, but I decided I don’t think it’s worth my time to continue listening [...]

Ok. But then you can't really comment on what she said, can you?

At least not with much credibility.

 

[Dave]

@Spizz

11,657 reports of death (just US alone), is that safe to use? answer me

You do realise the inadequacies and inaccuracies of VAERS was discussed here months ago?

It is not a database that can be relied upon to be accurate.

 

[PsyWulf]

You do realise the inadequacies and inaccuracies of VAERS was discussed here months ago?

It is not a database that can be relied upon to be accurate.

@DreamKing is about 6 months behind the average antivaxxer,some kids just are slower

 

[Splinter]

I think you're missing the elephant in the room.

If you are a violent actor, you don't have to be objectively right, correct, accurate or truthful. This is why people turn to legalized crime. All the better if a lot of Polly-Annas look up to you in awe, and lick your boots.

Any ostensible attempt to engage in reasonable dialogue loses its credibility by the mere presence of the violent actor.

Oh gawd. All the made-up drama.

Did you do drama in school by any chance?

PS - you realise your analogy is that because misinformation is blocked on a social platform, people turn to legalised crime. FMG.

 

[Splinter]

Ok. But then you can't really comment on what she said, can you?

At least not with much credibility.

Hahahaha - since when do you worry about credibility?

 

[DreamKing]

@DreamKing is about 6 months behind the average antivaxxer,some kids just are slower

that is insane to criticize the number, that is from CDC and the most updated one.

 

[Dave]

that is insane to criticize the number, that is from CDC and the most updated one.

You said it was from VAERS a few posts ago?

 

[lexity]

Oh gawd. All the made-up drama.

Did you do drama in school by any chance?

Did you do education in school? Chances are you went to a State-school and got a State education.

So whistling past the 100s of millions body count, whilst you load your next game on your computer, is probably par for the course.

Again it comes down to individual responsibility for making sense of the world. Or relinquishing that responsibility to a big daddy, coercively paternalistic government flanked by its well-protected cronies. Soothingly assuring you it - and its well-leashed cronies - has placed your best interests first.

Aaaaah..... what a lovely bedtime story.

PS - you realise your analogy is that because misinformation is blocked on a social platform, people turn to legalised crime. FMG.

No.

 

[Dave]

VAERS received 11,657 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.

From your previous post

 

[lexity]

Hahahaha - since when do you worry about credibility?

I'm incentivised to pay attention... which is where credibility comes from.

Credibility doesn't arrive by decree.

 

[Splinter]

Did you do education in school? Chances are you went to a State-school and got a State education.

So whistling past the 100s of millions body count, whilst you load your next game on your computer, is probably par for the course.

Again it comes down to individual responsibility for making sense of the world. Or relinquishing that responsibility to a big daddy, coercively paternalistic government flanked by its well-protected cronies. Soothingly assuring you it - and its well-leashed cronies - has placed your best interests first.

Aaaaah..... what a lovely bedtime story.


No.

You are such a laughable conspiracy nut And I asked you first - did you do drama by any chance?

But I do have a post-graduate degree, if that helps you. It helps me go, umm, where do you get the "hundreds of millions body count" from? Your ass, as usual?

And - "yes"

 

[Splinter]

I'm incentivised to pay attention... which is where credibility comes from.

Credibility doesn't arrive by decree.

Oh really - show us some credibility with proving this "hundreds of millions body count" then please.

But pray tell how you are *drum roll* "incentivised" to pay attention. You mean like the rest of us, who have to naturally apply this god-like technique when doing any job?

And paying attention does not equate to credibility, dude. For example, you obviously pay attention to looney fringe web sites, but that doesn't make you, or them, credible.

 

[maumau]

There was more than one source, but in SA Panda led the way with data to convincingly show that lockdowns were not justified.

p.s. They were also advised the PCR test is not a diagnostic tool. They ignored that, too.... choosing instead to use the test to conflate a +PCR result with a case. Which massively elevated the perceived risk.

This has been used to drive the panic which can then be used to do the kinds of things that would never otherwise be tolerated but has a net positive effect for their profit margin - to the tune of billions in a very short space of time, and to set aside constitutional laws, permitting crime to be committed on a scale that we will never recover from.

To anyone who thinks they are smarter than 'their' government, they are not as stupid as you think they are. They know far better than you that their asses are on the line for what they have been papering over, whilst you were drinking the Koolaid courtesy of their media mouth-pieces.

Thanks. Are you saying PCR+ does not mean COVID positive?

...... Not arguing, just asking, as of now I'm still on the fence.

 

[pinball wizard]

I've said it many times

Opinions can be wrong,and not all of them need to be heeded. Just snowflakes want every voice to matter no matter how stupid it is
You don't ask the criminal if he thinks prison is fair,nor do you ask the patient what the best way to perform the surgery is

Oddly though, you get vaccinated or get shot crowd, swear blind your opinion trumps all

 

[pinball wizard]

Thanks. Are you saying PCR+ does not mean COVID positive?

...... Not arguing, just asking, as of now I'm still on the fence.

Well, it's fact that the PCR test runs at around 50% false results. So there's that.

 

[pinball wizard]

You do realise the inadequacies and inaccuracies of VAERS was discussed here months ago?

It is not a database that can be relied upon to be accurate.

The biggest problem with vaers is it is under reported. If it was accurate the numbers would be even more terrifying.

 

[expedite]

From your previous post

I think you scared him so badly he's run off. Facts tend to do that.

 

[maumau]

Well, it's fact that the PCR test runs at around 50% false results. So there that.

It certainly seems to lean towards positive results.

So much so that I asked on this forum whether anyone had been found COVID negative and surprisingly (to me) some people had.

Only one person I know personally has tested negative and she had prepped beforehand by gargling with salt several times in the hours leading up to her test.

 

[pinball wizard]

It certainly seems to lean towards positive results.

So much so that I asked on this forum whether anyone had been found COVID negative and surprisingly (to me) some people had.

Only one person I know personally has tested negative and she had prepped beforehand by gargling with salt several times in the hours leading up to her test.

There's a guy posted here pictures of his test results. He was given a positive and a negative result for the same test. In writing.