vaccination side effects

[Dave]

The biggest problem with vaers is it is under reported. If it was accurate the numbers would be even more terrifying.

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Don’t Fall for the ‘VAERS Scare’ Tactic

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System or VAERS is being misused by anti-vaxxers to terrify the public. It’s a shame because VAERS plays a vital role in detecting important but rare reactions caused by vaccines. The weaponization of VAERS by anti-vaccine activists serves as a reminder that...

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Fact Check-VAERS and FAERS data shown does not prove COVID-19 vaccine adverse events and deaths

Posts are sharing an image comparing adverse events and deaths between ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, flu vaccines, dexamethasone, Tylenol and COVID-19 vaccines, as reported by U.S. Centers for Disease control and Prevention’s (CDC) Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System...

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Data from vaccine reporting site being misrepresented online

CLAIM: Screenshots of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System show people who have died after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine...

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PolitiFact - Federal VAERS database is a critical tool for researchers, but a breeding ground for misinformation

An Instagram post says: "6,000% Increase in Reported Vaccine Deaths 1st Quarter 2021 Compared to 1st Quarter 2020.&

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Viral Posts Misuse VAERS Data to Make False Claims About COVID-19 Vaccines - FactCheck.org

Social media posts repeatedly misuse unverified data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System to falsely claim that COVID-19 vaccines are dangerous, and even lethal. But the government database is not designed to determine if vaccines cause health problems.

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Unverified reports of vaccine side effects aren't the smoking guns portrayed by right-wing media outlets

Chances are you may not be not familiar with the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS. Co-managed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, VAERS was established in 1990 to detect possible safety problems with vaccines.

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How conspiracy theorists are using a CDC database to spread misinformation and fear - National | Globalnews.ca

A U.S. CDC tracking system has inadvertently given the anti-vax community a powerful tool for spreading misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines.

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[Suspect99]

It certainly seems to lean towards positive results.

So much so that I asked on this forum whether anyone had been found COVID negative and surprisingly (to me) some people had.

Only one person I know personally has tested negative and she had prepped beforehand by gargling with salt several times in the hours leading up to her test.

During the worst of the waves the positivity rate hits about 30%. That means that only 30% of tests are positive worst case. It drops below 10 percent sometimes.

 

[pinball wizard]

Nope

Don’t Fall for the ‘VAERS Scare’ Tactic

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System or VAERS is being misused by anti-vaxxers to terrify the public. It’s a shame because VAERS plays a vital role in detecting important but rare reactions caused by vaccines. The weaponization of VAERS by anti-vaccine activists serves as a reminder that...

www.mcgill.ca

Fact Check-VAERS and FAERS data shown does not prove COVID-19 vaccine adverse events and deaths

Posts are sharing an image comparing adverse events and deaths between ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, flu vaccines, dexamethasone, Tylenol and COVID-19 vaccines, as reported by U.S. Centers for Disease control and Prevention’s (CDC) Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System...

www.reuters.com

Data from vaccine reporting site being misrepresented online

CLAIM: Screenshots of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System show people who have died after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine...

apnews.com

PolitiFact - Federal VAERS database is a critical tool for researchers, but a breeding ground for misinformation

An Instagram post says: "6,000% Increase in Reported Vaccine Deaths 1st Quarter 2021 Compared to 1st Quarter 2020.&

www.politifact.com

Viral Posts Misuse VAERS Data to Make False Claims About COVID-19 Vaccines - FactCheck.org

Social media posts repeatedly misuse unverified data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System to falsely claim that COVID-19 vaccines are dangerous, and even lethal. But the government database is not designed to determine if vaccines cause health problems.

www.factcheck.org

Unverified reports of vaccine side effects aren't the smoking guns portrayed by right-wing media outlets

Chances are you may not be not familiar with the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS. Co-managed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, VAERS was established in 1990 to detect possible safety problems with vaccines.

medicalxpress.com

How conspiracy theorists are using a CDC database to spread misinformation and fear - National | Globalnews.ca

A U.S. CDC tracking system has inadvertently given the anti-vax community a powerful tool for spreading misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines.

globalnews.ca

Yes. Cause you can measure people who experience something and say nothing about it.

Pull the other one.

I, the Chinese, several others I know, had issues after the vaccine that one would report, but, meh, I didn't dieded, so we didn't.

Sure. It's insignificant. Keep telling yourself that.

 

[pinball wizard]

During the worst of the waves the positivity rate hits about 30%. That means that only 30% of tests are positive worst case. It drops below 10 percent sometimes.

That said nothing towards the number of false positives. It only has relevance to the increased number of tests being done.

 

[Dave]

Yes. Cause you can measure people who experience something and say nothing about it.

You do realise anyone can make a VAERS report? Even if they have never had the vaccine and could even be an antivaxxer or flat earther.

 

[pinball wizard]

You do realise anyone can make a VAERS report? Even if they have never had the vaccine and could even be an antivaxxer or flat earther.

So, you're basing your claim on imaginary things? The same as you accuse me of doing?

Why does your claim carry more weight?

I have personal, if anecdotal, evidence to back my claim at least.

 

[Wrath of Khan]

and what adverse effect did you feel?

and have you ever had any other vaccine before?

 

[DreamKing]

I think you scared him so badly he's run off. Facts tend to do that.

never got me runaway, tell him to use another account if he wants to respond, I banned him long time ago.

 

[Suspect99]

That said nothing towards the number of false positives. It only has relevance to the increased number of tests being done.

Maumau says they thought the tests skewed towards positive results. And they hardly heard of anyone with a negative.

Worst case 70% of the results are negative. Most of the time it's 90%
I never said anything about false positives

 

[pinball wizard]

Maumau says they thought the tests skewed towards positive results. And they hardly heard of anyone with a negative.

Worst case 70% of the results are negative. Most of the time it's 90%
I never said anything about false positives

Fair enough.

However the massive false positive rate impacts this.

 

[lexity]

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I changed my reaction to sad.

It's no laughing matter. Either way you look at it.

The really crazy thing is, if people were offered a safe haven, one from the other, say a municipality with the basics to survive until they are comfortable returning. One or two for a) those who fear the effects of the jabbed, and b) for those who fear the effects of the unjabbed(shedding), we would have nothing but happy, or at no serious contention in society.

The only trouble with this is that it doesn't get the politicians and their cronies a get-out-out-of-jail-free card. Because either way, it will become clear in time who is right. This is what the government and its cronies fear.

This is the real reason governments(and cronies) can't stand open competition.... because it spells the end of their crime-sprees. They would have to change their ways by respecting self-ownership of individuals.

As any Marxist will tell you, individuals are not capable of learning from their mistakes, they have no power of choice. Self-control is a matter of suppression, rather than expression. That they are merely at the mercy of their environment and their genes, and of statistics.

 

[PsyWulf]

It certainly seems to lean towards positive results.

So much so that I asked on this forum whether anyone had been found COVID negative and surprisingly (to me) some people had.

Only one person I know personally has tested negative and she had prepped beforehand by gargling with salt several times in the hours leading up to her test.

17 tests sofar,0 positives (I travel a lot for work)
I don't even flinch anymore when they dig in

Think majority of the "false" positives are people who did have it,asymptomatically,and got over it but still have DNA traces

ART tests for current infection in comparison

 

[lexity]

17 tests sofar,0 positives (I travel a lot for work)
I don't even flinch anymore when they dig in

Think majority of the "false" positives are people who did have it,asymptomatically,and got over it but still have DNA traces

ART tests for current infection in comparison

Wrt the PCR test.... and being 'dug' into....

What do you make of what Kerry Mullis said about his PCR tech'? He was the inventor it, right?

 

[SoldierMan]

You are such a laughable conspiracy nut And I asked you first - did you do drama by any chance?

But I do have a post-graduate degree, if that helps you. It helps me go, umm, where do you get the "hundreds of millions body count" from? Your ass, as usual?

And - "yes"

Such a pleasant fellow you are

 

[Splinter]

Such a pleasant fellow you are

Oh, mine is supported by observational evidence and the fact that he couldn't respond. But nice try (and thanks for imitating me)

 

[SoldierMan]

Oh, mine is supported by observational evidence and the fact that he couldn't respond. But nice try (and thanks for imitating me)

Of course it is sonny, of course it is, when you do it, it's all above board, when anyone else does it, it's malevolent. And the sun shines out your ass too, you self-righteous ninny
I was mocking, not imitating you

 

[Dave]

So, you're basing your claim on imaginary things? The same as you accuse me of doing?

You make no sense, I'm saying VAERS is not set up for the purposes anti-vaxxers are using it for and it can be manipulated by these naughty little people.

I posted a number of sources that back it up.

 

[Dave]

Of course it is sonny, of course it is, when you do it, it's all above board, when anyone else does it, it's malevolent. And the sun shines out your ass too, you self-righteous ninny
I was mocking, not imitating you

What a lovely compassionate Christian you are...

 

[pinball wizard]

You make no sense, I'm saying VAERS is not set up for the purposes anti-vaxxers are using it for and it can be manipulated by these naughty little people.

I posted a number of sources that back it up.

Wait.

You're saying fake reports are there, and I'm saying not everyone who experiences something reports it, and I'm not making sense?

Would you prefer smoke signals?

In essence we agree that the vaers system is not accurate, right?

 

[SoldierMan]

What a lovely compassionate Christian you are...

Yes I like to think so, but I have my off days as well.

Here's the thing though, this forum is full of crude, aggressive, insulting egotists like yourself and so every now and then you gotta get a little dirty. After all this is a debate forum is it not?