vaccination side effects

[lexity]

You are such a laughable conspiracy nut

Ad hom'. You can do better. Come on.

And I asked you first - did you do drama by any chance?

No. Relevance?

But I do have a post-graduate degree, if that helps you. It helps me go, umm, where do you get the "hundreds of millions body count" from? Your ass, as usual?

Clearly you are skipping through the daisies. Probably because you were promised a free lunch.

Let me guess, they told you we are 'better together'..... aaaaaaaaaahhhhh. How soothing.

Ask George Carlin if you're in the club.

If I were you, I would not be so arrogant and cock-sure in thinking there is nothing to learn outside of your prized State-education.

Governments murdered over 260 million people in the 20th century alone.... excluding war deaths.

Please tell us, how on earth could this have escaped your superior, State-cultivated attention?

What? 260 million body count not enough for you?

 

[Dave]

In essence we agree that the vaers system is not accurate, right?

I'm sure I can agree with that sentiment.

 

[Dave]

Yes I like to think so, but I have my off days as well.

Here's the thing though, this forum is full of crude, aggressive, insulting egotists like yourself and so every now and then you gotta get a little dirty. After all this is a debate forum is it not?

When last was I really nasty to you, my little soldierboy?

 

[lexity]

Thanks. Are you saying PCR+ does not mean COVID positive?

...... Not arguing, just asking, as of now I'm still on the fence.

PCR+, as Tanzanian President discovered, can be proof your Paw Paw has Covid.

Tanzania President John Magufuli dead five weeks after The Guardian calls for "reining him in" - The COVID Blog®

Timing is everything. Tanzania President John Magufuli refused to parrot the mainstream narrative about COVID-19 and vaccines. He's now dead.

thecovidblog.com

The 'D' in Covid stands for disease. So, symptomatic.

If you are not symptomatic you do not have a disease, Covid-19 or otherwise.
If you are symptomatic, then you should, imo, as a responsibility-bearing individual, work from the inside out.... i.e. via a process of elimination.

Make sure your rudamentary, basics are not out of whack.

Sleep, nutritious food, exercise, fresh air, sunshine(an alpha source of vitamin D), sharing of space with other human beings ... and animals, your immune system needs exercise too. And don't forget that man does not live by bread alone... you need to interact with other people to feed and sustain your soul.

Once all of those ducks are in a row, and you are still symptomatic, you can afford to start looking further afield for answers. But not at the hands of those who pay no price for being wrong....

If someone is telling you you might be asymptomatic and passing it on..... well then the burden of proof is on them.

Shutting down an economy to test someone's theory? Sorry, that doesn't cut it.

 

[Spizz]

I asked for a link to the claim, not someone else's interpretation of it.

Yeah sure. I’ll run about like a dick because you want to be difficult. It’s all there, links and all in the link I gave you.

Really, for someone who depends on the internet for sourcing their news, you’re pretty bad at it.

Until the next commenter gives you an opposite version.

Then, horror of horrors, you are required to make a decision. But will that involve viewing the content of the video?

I said quite clearly the video means nothing unless it is fact checked and I'm not wasting my time on it. If you checked the documents presented then please feel free to share and then I'll have a look. In the meantime you keep believing everything that meets your narrative and I'll keep taking these thinks with a pinch of salt.

 

[Spizz]

I asked for a link to the claim, not someone else's interpretation of it.

Lol, if you read it (as uncomfortable as it is for you), you'd see a link to the original report and everywhere else it was shared. I know you're not used to your news been checked but maybe go and have a read of the debunk I shared and you'll see how real agencies report facts.

 

[Spizz]

Ok. But then you can't really comment on what she said, can you?

At least not with much credibility.

I said I take it with a pinch of salt. You obviously watch and believe it instantly because you want to, but I'm clearly not as gullible as you are.

 

[DreamKing]

In essence we agree that the vaers system is not accurate, right?

for normal people with normal intelligence capacity will consider the vaers number is underestimated the actual fatality rate which after vaccinated. the actual number should be higher.

however for those idiots and people with private agenda such as government officials, they denied every death case which may cause by the vaccines, in other words, that is NO any person who died after vaccination. that is the reason why they said the number is incorrect. vaccine is safe, no matter what is the number, that is incorrect. the number must be zero and then that is the correct number according to idiots.

 

[lexity]

for normal people with normal intelligence capacity will consider the vaers number is underestimated the actual fatality rate which after vaccinated. the actual number should be higher.

however for those idiots and people with private agenda such as government officials, they denied every death case which may cause by the vaccines, in other words, that is NO any person who died after vaccination. that is the reason why they said the number is incorrect. vaccine is safe, no matter what is the number, that is incorrect. the number must be zero and then that is the correct number according to idiots.

My impression was that the db was deliberately under-gunned, in terms of a speedy, responsive service, so they would have a reply(an excuse) when the criticism emerged that under-reporting was occurring.

From what I hear, doctors don't get paid to sit in front of the screen waiting for up to 30 minutes to submit an entry.

#Incompetence_delivers_actually

Of course it's not a proper answer to the criticism.

 

[Biscuit1018]

for normal people with normal intelligence capacity will consider the vaers number is underestimated the actual fatality rate which after vaccinated. the actual number should be higher.

however for those idiots and people with private agenda such as government officials, they denied every death case which may cause by the vaccines, in other words, that is NO any person who died after vaccination. that is the reason why they said the number is incorrect. vaccine is safe, no matter what is the number, that is incorrect. the number must be zero and then that is the correct number according to idiots.

Since you insist on being insulting I will keep it short

1. Of course some deaths get missed

2. However, just because a death is on VAERS does not mean the death is attributable to the vax. People die anyway. If you die of a heart attack it could be another cause.

VAERS is there so the experts can see if the numbers are different to the usual rates
THey need to investigate more.

One cant just add them up

 

[Biscuit1018]

VAERS Disclaimer

VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to the system. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.

The strengths of VAERS are that it is national in scope and can quickly provide an early warning of a safety problem with a vaccine. As part of CDC and FDA’s multi-system approach to post-licensure vaccine safety monitoring, VAERS is designed to rapidly detect unusual or unexpected patterns of adverse events, also known as “safety signals.” If a safety signal is found in VAERS, further studies can be done in safety systems such as the CDC’s Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) or the Clinical Immunization Safety Assessment (CISA) project. These systems do not have the same scientific limitations as VAERS, and can better assess health risks and possible connections between adverse events and a vaccine.

Key considerations and limitations of VAERS data:

• Vaccine providers are encouraged to report any clinically significant health problem following vaccination to VAERS, whether or not they believe the vaccine was the cause.
• Reports may include incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental and unverified information.
• The number of reports alone cannot be interpreted or used to reach conclusions about the existence, severity, frequency, or rates of problems associated with vaccines.
• VAERS data is limited to vaccine adverse event reports received between 1990 and the most recent date for which data are available.
• VAERS data do not represent all known safety information for a vaccine and should be interpreted in the context of other scientific information.

VAERS data available to the public include only the initial report data to VAERS. Updated data which contains data from medical records and corrections reported during follow up are used by the government for analysis. However, for numerous reasons including data consistency, these amended data are not available to the public.

 

[pinball wizard]

2. However, just because a death is on VAERS does not mean the death is attributable to the vax. People die anyway. If you die of a heart attack it could be another cause.

How come this argument is allowed for this, but not for so called covid deaths?

 

[Splinter]

Of course it is sonny, of course it is, when you do it, it's all above board, when anyone else does it, it's malevolent. And the sun shines out your ass too, you self-righteous ninny
I was mocking, not imitating you

See, there you go with the personal attacks again. You suck as a good human being hey - better go back and read that bible again

 

[Charlesjjm]

Since you insist on being insulting I will keep it short

1. Of course some deaths get missed

2. However, just because a death is on VAERS does not mean the death is attributable to the vax. People die anyway. If you die of a heart attack it could be another cause.

VAERS is there so the experts can see if the numbers are different to the usual rates
THey need to investigate more.

One cant just add them up

Agreed. I think I need to repost this:
Let's look at the information that is entered into this database:

 

[Splinter]

Ad hom'. You can do better. Come on.


No. Relevance?


Clearly you are skipping through the daisies. Probably because you were promised a free lunch.

Let me guess, they told you we are 'better together'..... aaaaaaaaaahhhhh. How soothing.

Ask George Carlin if you're in the club.

If I were you, I would not be so arrogant and cock-sure in thinking there is nothing to learn outside of your prized State-education.

Governments murdered over 260 million people in the 20th century alone.... excluding war deaths.

Please tell us, how on earth could this have escaped your superior, State-cultivated attention?

What? 260 million body count not enough for you?

Whats this got to do with COVID vaccine?

But show us the 260m government murders excluding wars. Please.

And I said post-grad, you genius, which is not state education.

And I'm still waiting on details of your incentivized attention!!

 

[Biscuit1018]

How come this argument is allowed for this, but not for so called covid deaths?

Of course it should be allowed for COVID deaths!


However, bad logic in one place doesnt mean there should be bad logic elsewhere

 

[lexity]

If you want to boost the numbers, don't mention the co-morbitdiies.
If you want to reduce the numbers, mention the co-morbidities.

Thing is... didn't hospitals get paid for each Covid-19 death?

And are doctors being paid to sit for 30 minutes to enter a case onto VAERS, before giving up and walking away?

 

[lexity]

Whats this got to do with COVID vaccine?

What does what have to do with it?

 

[DreamKing]

Since you insist on being insulting I will keep it short

?????

1. Of course some deaths get missed

sure

2. However, just because a death is on VAERS does not mean the death is attributable to the vax. People die anyway. If you die of a heart attack it could be another cause.

CDC said the same thing, you don't need to repeat, obviously no one died from vaccine.

VAERS is there so the experts can see if the numbers are different to the usual rates
THey need to investigate more.

One cant just add them up

idiots don't accept anything except from the government. the government said that is no one died because of vaccine that must be the truth, government said they are science and you just follow them, that is.

 

[Splinter]

What does what have to do with it?

Vaccination side effects thread? COVID vaccination?

Anyway, answer the rest of the questions, And admit you don't know what state education is