vaccination side effects

[zolly]

no position is the worst position.

I'd say being wrong and trying to argue that you're right is the worst position. Saying "I don't know enough to have an opinion on something" is far from the worst position.

 

[DreamKing]

You quote VAERS.

God.

Some people are just **** dumb.

Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data

Evaluating VAERS Data

When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.

VAERS - Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data

vaers.hhs.gov

I said that for my posts already, not a single government published any "vaccine related death" report because the people like you and governments officials with private agenda fundamentally don't accept vaccine will / may / had trigger(ed) any death toll (in other words number must be zero). CDC website also said that already and I also mentioned that before, you don't need to point out that (your predecessors and followers please don't do it again, I am tired to respond endlessly). go back to read again what I posted already I explained that why you guys are laughable for VAERS number.

PS: #2336

 

[DreamKing]

I'd say being wrong and trying to argue that you're right is the worst position. Saying "I don't know enough to have an opinion on something" is far from the worst position.

another laughing shock.

 

[Dave]

another laughing shock.

The phrase is "laughing stock"

 

[zolly]

I said that for my posts already, not a single government published any "vaccine related death" report because the people like you and governments officials with private agenda fundamentally don't accept vaccine will / may / had trigger(ed) any death toll (in other words number must be zero).

Oh lord. Since you can read minds you should have been able to see this coming.

I don't believe that there are zero vaccine related deaths. It's entirely possible that a few people have died who may not have died if they hadn't gotten the vaccine. I also believe that they may not have died even if they had COVID.

But guess what? We don't know what the actual numbers of POSSIBLE vaccine related deaths are, and at the end of the day, literally billions of people have been vaccinated and even if every single person on VAERS died from vaccine complications, it's still far less than the people who have ACTUALLY died from COVID. Therefore, for the majority, the benefits far outweigh the risks. It's still terrible for those who MAY have died as a result of vaccine complications, but until we know for certain, the vaccine has done more good than harm.

CDC website also said that already and I also mentioned that before, you don't need to point out that (your predecessors and followers please don't do it again, I am tired to respond endlessly). go back to read again what I posted already I explained that why you guys are laughable for VAERS number.

Don't say ignorant stuff and you won't have to constantly explain yourself.

Literally quoted why VAERS themselves say they are an unreliable source... but sure, double down, it makes your argument look very good.

 

[zolly]

another laughing shock.

Plenty of people have spent plenty of time trying to point out the issues with your thinking, and it's clear that you won't be changing your mind any time soon or accepting you argument has some issues. Time to ignore and move on.

 

[RiaX]

Two years now. Yet to see a severe side effect from any of my patients so far.

 

[DreamKing]

Oh lord. Since you can read minds you should have been able to see this coming.

I don't believe that there are zero vaccine related deaths. It's entirely possible that a few people have died who may not have died if they hadn't gotten the vaccine. I also believe that they may not have died even if they have COVID.

sure 1 / 2.

But guess what? One, we don't know what the actual numbers of POSSIBLE vaccine related deaths are, and at the end of the day, literally billions of people have been vaccinated and even if every single person on VAERS died from vaccine complications, it's still far less than the people who have died from COVID. Therefore, for the majority, the risks far outweigh the benefits.

that is my original argument, percentage is "low" but in fact the number is "very high", will you let your family to take the vaccine which caused 11k+ lives? no one want to answer this question may be you could. try it.

Don't say ignorant stuff and you won't have to constantly explain yourself.

Literally quoted why VAERS themselves say they are an unreliable source... but sure, double down, it makes your argument look very good.

I gave the explanation already, read #2336. I took the same arguments why VAERS is "unreliable" according to "your" (and your kind) standard. maybe you can come back to argue with me after you read my post.

 

[DreamKing]

Plenty of people have spent plenty of time trying to point out the issues with your thinking, and it's clear that you won't be changing your mind any time soon or accepting you argument has some issues. Time to ignore and move on.

sure, use your ignore button please. thank you.

 

[PsyWulf]

Plenty of people have spent plenty of time trying to point out the issues with your thinking, and it's clear that you won't be changing your mind any time soon or accepting you argument has some issues. Time to ignore and move on.

Just ignore Shitking like the rest of us
There's no amount of lubricant that will get that head out of his own arse

@DreamKing how's the air down there? Moist?

 

[lexity]

But, but, but - you dismiss state education!!

Let's be specific. I dismiss State education's incentive to educate you about its own consequences.

262 million deaths is no laughing matter.

 

[tetrasect]

17 tests sofar,0 positives (I travel a lot for work)
I don't even flinch anymore when they dig in

Think majority of the "false" positives are people who did have it,asymptomatically,and got over it but still have DNA traces

ART tests for current infection in comparison

A friend of mine has had 168 PCR tests and none of them were positive.

 

[lexity]

A friend of mine has had 168 PCR tests and none of them were positive.

168 x R1000(on average) = R168,000

a) who paid for those tests?
b) was the cycle threshold published?
c) what was being tested for, exactly?
d) what did the inventor of PCR, Dr Karry Mullis, say about the use of the tech as a diagnostic test?
e) why did a SA court dismiss the issue of proof of isolation, of the alleged virus, as unimportant/non-urgent?

 

[PsyWulf]

A friend of mine has had 168 PCR tests and none of them were positive.

Well damn his sinuses must be sparkly

 

[calvin-]

for normal people with normal intelligence capacity will consider the vaers number is underestimated the actual fatality rate which after vaccinated. the actual number should be higher.

however for those idiots and people with private agenda such as government officials, they denied every death case which may cause by the vaccines, in other words, that is NO any person who died after vaccination. that is the reason why they said the number is incorrect. vaccine is safe, no matter what is the number, that is incorrect. the number must be zero and then that is the correct number according to idiots.

I can't believe I have to say this, but the fatality rate after every vaccine is 100%

They don't make you immortal.

 

[calvin-]

If you want to boost the numbers, don't mention the co-morbitdiies.
If you want to reduce the numbers, mention the co-morbidities.

Thing is... didn't hospitals get paid for each Covid-19 death?

Nope.

And are doctors being paid to sit for 30 minutes to enter a case onto VAERS, before giving up and walking away?

Anyone's can enter a VAERS report. Not just doctors.

 

[Daveogg]

d) what did the inventor of PCR, Dr Karry Mullis, say about the use of the tech as a diagnostic test?

Lets help you with this one for now.
Dr Mullis died in 2019 prior to the Covid epidemic. His quotes are regarding PCR testing in HIV.

"Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron." PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.

What he is saying is a PCR test tests for genetic material of a virus (or bacteria, or a fungus, or a tumor mutation). It makes no more claims other than whether the specific sequence you are looking for is present or not. He specifically states "viral load" cannot be determined. And yet one of the pillars of the "anti covid vaccination" proponents is "viral load is the same in vaccinated and unvaccinated" taken from PCR cycle threshold numbers.

PCR tests require intelligent interpretation, just like a CT scan or a urine culture.

Remember early in 2020, you could not get a SARS-CoV2 PCR done unless you were referred by a doctor (who would then interpret the result), but public outcry about how doctors were charging "just to fill in a form" resulted in that requirement being dropped. Now every keyboard warrior believes they are an expert in PCR tests.

VirusMyth.org | HAS PROVINCETOWN BECOME PROTEASE TOWN

Former domain of a website talking about the various myths and facts about HIV and AIDS virus.

www.virusmyth.org

 

[DreamKing]

I can't believe I have to say this, but the fatality rate after every vaccine is 100%

They don't make you immortal.

in other word, no one can be a murderer because the victim will still die anyways?

that is not an argument.

no one has died due to covid because people will die anyways.I got it.

 

[LCBXX]

@zolly @PsyWulf @tetrasect @pouroverguy
You should go back to 2020 and read some of your posts on Covid; as things are today, you may gain insights as to why people struggle to agree with you.

 

[tetrasect]

168 x R1000(on average) = R168,000

a) who paid for those tests?

Work. Testing is required for travel and she has to travel a lot.

b) was the cycle threshold published?
c) what was being tested for, exactly?
d) what did the inventor of PCR, Dr Karry Mullis, say about the use of the tech as a diagnostic test?
e) why did a SA court dismiss the issue of proof of isolation, of the alleged virus, as unimportant/non-urgent?

Who gives a crap?

None of that will change the fact that my friend got 168 PCR tests and did not get a single positive, never mind "50% false positive" or whatever BS you fools believe.