vaccination side effects

Sensorei

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Is required reading for you, to help you get your facts right.

And very interesting. But notice what that "grant" is specifically for ----- Wonder how that got past the PFMA regulations. Looking forward to the parliamentary debate which will inevitably happen at some time.

And what do the words "regulatory body" mean to you?
No wonder most people on MyBB treat you like the class retard. Ever hear about sarcasm? I wasn't disputing anything you said. Just clarifying that as a regulatory body SAHPRA is like the FDA, primarily so everyone reading it would understand. Do us all a favour and go take a handful of ivermectin.
 

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Yes. It is called bringing people back to reality. Balancing the universe.
This vaccine was never tested properly before use, based on an already failed development, already shown to be unsafe, and it needed someone to have the guts to bring it down.
It also helps to restore faith in our regulator. We can now say that SAHPRA is not just a rubber stamp.
"This vaccine" being the Sputnik vaccine?

Your post [that I previously replied to] made it sound like you don't care which vaccine fails, just that you [and unspecified others] want one of the vaccines to fail [for incomprehensible reasons].
 

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No wonder most people on MyBB treat you like the class retard. Ever hear about sarcasm? I wasn't disputing anything you said. Just clarifying that as a regulatory body SAHPRA is like the FDA, primarily so everyone reading it would understand. Do us all a favour and go take a handful of ivermectin.
Well then as I have learnt the hard way. /s or italics if you want sarcasm to be recognised.
 

Geoff.D

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"This vaccine" being the Sputnik vaccine?

Your post [that I previously replied to] made it sound like you don't care which vaccine fails, just that you [and unspecified others] want one of the vaccines to fail [for incomprehensible reasons].
Well, specifically the Russian and Chinese stuff, but any vaccine would do. The blind faith in vaccines is downright dangerous because it means no one is looking seriously at plan B.
 

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2nd jab put me on my ass with heavy body-load in bed for a day after jab, no pain, sniffles, fever etc, more sore injection site this time. 1st jab did nothing.
 

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SAHPRA is also funded by Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and they are just helping the world right, so nobody would question their motives.

What other motives do they have? Do you have evidence?
 

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Well, specifically the Russian and Chinese stuff, but any vaccine would do. The blind faith in vaccines is downright dangerous because it means no one is looking seriously at plan B.

What is plan B? Extreme lockdown? Lie down and die? Eat other farm animals medicine?
 

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What is plan B? Extreme lockdown? Lie down and die? Eat other farm animals medicine?
Pursuing finding a treatment regime with the same vigour as was or is being done as that going on with vaccines.
 

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Pursuing finding a treatment regime with the same vigour as was or is being done as that going on with vaccines.

Such as? What qualifies as a treatment regime? Are we not treating people now, or were we not treating them prior to vaccines being available?
 

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Pursuing finding a treatment regime with the same vigour as was or is being done as that going on with vaccines.
Pharma are going to go with where the economics make the most sense and prevention is always better than cure. If vaccines continue to make sense then pharma have no incentive to spend money researching cures and government prefer vaccines to cures as that limits the burden of healthcare services.
 

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Kid's ask the stupidest questions . . .​


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How to say you don't understand vaccines or the immune system without actually saying you don't understand vaccines or the immune system

Remember to never take any medicine ever again :p your Immune system got this.
Also, of course, the vaccine wouldn't work if you didn't have an immune system. The vaccine doesn't protect you from a virus, the vaccine simply teaches your immune system what the virus looks like, so your immune system can deal with it
 
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Bill Gates is driving a global depopulation agenda. The Gates foundation experimented with sterilising vaccines in Africa, sterilising thousands of African girls without their, or their parents, knowledge or consent.

Listen to him saying in a speech that the world population can be reduced by 15% if they do a good job on vaccines:

We missed you man - you have been a veteran on this forum. Which username was it ? I forgot.
 

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The lines are being blurred because the arguments are either mandatory vaccines or vaccines are the worst things possible.

There is a lot of resistance to making vaccines mandatory - but there is also resistance to censoring the people spreading misinformation who make people want to not get vaccines in the first place.

As censorship isn't the way to go, perhaps having mandatory vaccines(at least from a capitalist perspective limiting access) will encourage people to investigate the topic a bit more thoroughly before they commit to never going to a restaurant again.
If they want them mandatory then explicitly make them mandatory. Don't pretend they're not mandatory, but then try to make it impossible for an unvaccinated person to do anything. Also this method will fail unless you have a high percentage of people who are not strongly opposed. If it isn't law then restaurants will change their policy when they find that they're only getting 30% of the customers they used to get. All businesses will abandon this once they find out that a large percentage of their staff or customers are refusing to get vaccinated.

What then? You make it illegal to discuss the topic, so people don't realise there are a lot of others like them and get support? Then you're back to censorship.
 

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If they want them mandatory then explicitly make them mandatory. Don't pretend they're not mandatory, but then try to make it impossible for an unvaccinated person to do anything. Also this method will fail unless you have a high percentage of people who are not strongly opposed. If it isn't law then restaurants will change their policy when they find that they're only getting 30% of the customers they used to get. All businesses will abandon this once they find out that a large percentage of their staff or customers are refusing to get vaccinated.

What then? You make it illegal to discuss the topic, so people don't realise there are a lot of others like them and get support? Then you're back to censorship.
The other reason to get it and make it mandatory is because people seem to forget how difficult the lockdowns have been on the hospitality, entertainment and food industry. You can't have no lockdowns AND have people doing whatever they want, you are going to have to find balance.

The argument could apply to anything, only 30% of people pay their taxes? What can they do, lock us all up? Only 30% of people obey curfew? Only 30% don't riot and loot?
 

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Got my 1st jab on Monday. Turned out I had novovirus incubating and got hit with it on Tuesday.

Tuesday I was projectile vomiting. Severe dehydration, chills, etc, etc

I think I had 0 symptoms from the vax, just a sore shoulder whenever it contracted
 

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You can't have no lockdowns AND have people doing whatever they want, you are going to have to find balance.
A balance based on credible defendable scientific evidence to an informed public is the answer. But to try and force it is going to backfire and ultimately not achieve the expected outcomes.
 
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