vaccination side effects

[Nanfeishen]

There is no consistent, easy to understand message coming from anywhere that ordinary people can latch on to and believe.

The entire story from the beginning in a nutshell ^^^

 

[notayoba]

one minute we are told you are protected, the next but only for 6 months, but not to worry the "memory cells" will carry you through?

There is no consistent, easy to understand message coming from anywhere that ordinary people can latch on to and believe.

How dare they change their statements based on new data. They have to pick a statement and stick to it, no matter what the data says. Nevermind the fact that this is virgin ground for everyone, and we have to learn as we go. I tell you, the youth of today, no backbone...

 

[flytek]

A vaccine can't have a responsibility
and, he is completely entitled to be confused because so many "experts" appear to be just as confused.

one minute we are told you are protected, the next but only for 6 months, but not to worry the "memory cells" will carry you through?

There is no consistent, easy to understand message coming from anywhere that ordinary people can latch on to and believe.

I'm not confused in any way. The zealot was just trying to be obnoxious as usual.
What I was saying is the narrative has gone from 65% vaccinated till we reach herd immunity, to vaccinate everyone to prevent the spread, to vaccines don't prevent the spread, to vaccines do literally bugger all after 7 months and we'll need one every 3 months to be "safe"
Every narrative about the vaccines has turned out to be BS so why believe anything said about them?
The only useful thing we can say is if you are scared take a vaccine every 3 months and hope they don't kill you too.

Or maybe natural and vaccine antibodies actually protect against death to a large degree for a lengthy period in which case boosters are useless as are vaccines to a previously infected.

 

[Geoff.D]

The only useful thing we can say is if you are scared take a vaccine every 3 months and hope they don't kill you too.

Spot on, Especially if injected directly into a blood vessel that does not exist in the muscles of the upper arm.

Or maybe natural and vaccine antibodies actually protect against death to a large degree for a lengthy period in which case boosters are useless as are vaccines to a previously infected.

Oh of course, that is the other aspect that is not important -- we don't have to factor in any naturally acquired immunity ---- that is counterproductive.

I mean it is not about saving lives and livelihood anymore but about all the "experts" saving face in the light of their BS being exposed?

 

[flytek]

Spot on, Especially if injected directly into a blood vessel that does not exist in the muscles of the upper arm.

To me this is largely BS too. It is little more than a way to blame vaccine injuries on the poor nurses injecting them instead of on the manufacturers.
It may be true this is partly the problem but then make sure it doesn't happen.

 

[Geoff.D]

It may be true this is partly the problem but then make sure it doesn't happen.

It is has been known for many years, that a vaccine not developed for use intravenously must NOT be injected into a blood vessel. Hence the development of the Aspiration method.
Yet despite this known proven and well-developed technique, the medical fraternity goes about ignoring it, based on some RCT double-blind "studies" and then tries to dodge their responsibility based on "statistics".

It all stinks to high heaven. It makes 100% sense to avoid the risk altogether. But no, we will, have the same idiots trying to ignore the risks just because the numbers are fantastically minute. And when we see posts claiming "there are no blood vessels in the injection site to worry about" it gets completely ridiculous.

What "they" don't realise is the accumulation of all these things IS what drives vaccine hesitancy.

 

[Dave]

It is has been known for many years, that injecting a vaccine not developed for use intravenously must NOT be injected into a blood vessel. Hence the development of the Aspiration method.
Yet despite this known proven and well-developed technique, the medical fraternity goes about ignoring it, based on some RCT double-blind "studies" and then tries to dodge their responsibility based on "statistics".

It all stinks to high heaven. It makes 100% sense to avoid the risk altogether. But no, we will, have the same idiots trying to ignore the risks just because the numbers are fantastically minute. And when we see posts claiming "there are no blood vessels in the injection site to worry about" it gets completely ridiculous.

What "they" don't realise is the accumulation of all these things IS what drives vaccine hesitancy.

Did you ever explain how you managed to get into the medical areas where vaccines are being given to witness all the people being vaccinated?

I know you have been asked this multiple times but I can't recall seeing an answer.

 

[BTTB]

The incidence of the various vaccine complications has been determined through statistical analysis. It is known, for example, that around one in seventeen thousand vaccine recipients develop heart inflammation due to the vaccine.

Its a lot higher in my humble opinion.

People that die from a heart attack will be reported as natural causes.
Persons getting myocarditis might not even know they are unwell or get treated and recover.

Statistics is only as good as the data, if its not reported then it cannot be captured.

 

[Grant]

Nothing yet

Intilial J&J - nov last year.
J&J "booster" yesterday.

No side affects.

 

[SoldierMan]

Nothing yet

Intilial J&J - nov last year.
J&J "booster" yesterday.

No side affects.

That you know of....

 

[Aghori]

Nothing yet

Intilial J&J - nov last year.
J&J "booster" yesterday.

No side affects.

Bollocks. You had a natural odour of baby oil and baby powder the last time I got close to you.

 

[tetrasect]

one minute we are told you are protected, the next but only for 6 months, but not to worry the "memory cells" will carry you through?

Yes, the vaccine initially protects you from infection and that protection slowly wanes up to around 6 months, nevertheless the memory cells continue to protect you from severe symptoms. That's how the vaccines work.

There is no consistent, easy to understand message coming from anywhere that ordinary people can latch on to and believe.

What is so difficult to understand about the above? And what do you think they should do about?
That's how the vaccines work, they can't magically change scientific fact so that kippie the **** can understand it better.

 

[KantSnyer]

Nothing yet

Intilial J&J - nov last year.
J&J "booster" yesterday.

No side affects.

Just wait 2 more weeks ™

 

[Dave]

Nothing yet

Intilial J&J - nov last year.
J&J "booster" yesterday.

No side affects.

Same here (except Pfizer) and booster was 10 days ago.

 

[flytek]

Yes, the vaccine initially protects you from infection and that protection slowly wanes up to around 6 months, nevertheless the memory cells continue to protect you from severe symptoms. That's how the vaccines work.

I see...So now its antibodies protect against severe symptoms whether from vaccine or infection but you must take a vaccine every 6 months anyway to slightly delay the spread and be able to work and travel? Is that it?

 

[JohnStarr]

You're arguing with a guy with a below average IQ, don't waste your time.

He has an IQ?

 

[JohnStarr]

I see...So now its antibodies protect against severe symptoms whether from vaccine or infection but you must take a vaccine every 6 months anyway to slightly delay the spread and be able to work and travel? Is that it?

If you take the flu vaccine you need that twice per year as well. Did you know that?

 

[Grant]

That you know of....

Obviously, otherwise I would have commented on any side affect experienced

 

[Grant]

Just wait 2 more weeks ™

Remind me.
Be assured, as someone on a vaccine trial I'll be making plenty of noise should I experience side affects.
I hold zero loyalty to J&J or any other manufacturer.

 

[JohnStarr]

Spot on, Especially if injected directly into a blood vessel that does not exist in the muscles of the upper arm.

Oh of course, that is the other aspect that is not important -- we don't have to factor in any naturally acquired immunity ---- that is counterproductive.

I mean it is not about saving lives and livelihood anymore but about all the "experts" saving face in the light of their BS being exposed?

Geoff, but don't you help people get the vaccine? Or, based on your research, have you now stopped?