vaccination side effects

[maumau]

Assume if it's antivaxx is likely incorrect or selectively quoted - then throw it in the trash. You'll be right 99/100 times

I'm beginning to realise this, the amount of disinformation is horrendous.

 

[pinball wizard]

I'm beginning to realise this, the amount of disinformation is horrendous.

You do realise it's both extremes bullshitting at an alarming rate?

 

[Gyre]

You do realise it's both extremes bullshitting at an alarming rate?

There is no need for bullshitting or swaying, just post the entire story and let people make up their own minds.

I don't mind people criticizing MSM either, but don't get antivax information from newworldordernews.com either

 

[porchrat]

I don't mind people criticizing MSM either, but don't get antivax information from newworldordernews.com either

It doesn't come from anywhere else.

 

[maumau]

You do realise it's both extremes bullshitting at an alarming rate?

I do .... most divisive subject since religion, and then they wonder why people are against the jab.

 

[Gyre]

I do .... most divisive subject since religion, and then they wonder why people are against the jab.

To simplify it and not give you an essay to read, by the time a story or post makes it to you, the original point has been rehashed or discussed many, many times. This chart is just an example of how 1 story can spread and be used by different sources. Link below if you are interested why there is so much misinformation.

Anti-Vaxxers Are Using Twitter to Manipulate a Vaccine Bill

A small group of vocal anti-vaxxers is fighting hard to make sure a vaccine bill doesn't pass.

www.wired.com

 

[pinball wizard]

It doesn't come from anywhere else.

Except it does.
Guys like Alex Berenson are not retarded apes. They have well researched and well though out stances with great information, they are however, deliberately and intentionally sidelined, ridiculed and silenced by major networks and platforms.

 

[PsyWulf]

then they wonder why people are against the jab.

Majority is fear
Then you have the paranoid delusionals
And then those who just want the world to burn

World burners feed the delusionals,delusionals amplify for the public,public fears and picks it up
We have plenty of active examples on the forum

From Gyre's post

The other finding from observing anti-vax network graphs is that despite the vast majority vaccinating---national vaccination rates remain above 90 percent---there is no offsetting pro-vaccine Twitter machine; most parents simply vaccinate and move on with their lives. People don't organize in groups around everyday life-saving measures; there is no pro-seatbelt activist community on Twitter. The recent emergence, lack of central coordination, and weak connections seen among pro-vaccine Twitter users, who often use the hashtag #vaccineswork, means that the pro-vax message (in green) is not amplified to the same degree.

“Tweetiatrician” doctors, lawyers, and pro-vaccine parents often do attempt to join the conversation around the antivax hashtags. Unfortunately, many of the most active accounts experience the same attention received by the legislators: They become the target of harassment that includes phone calls to their places of employment, tweets posting identifying information or photos of their children, or warnings that they are being watched. Pro-vaccine activists and legislators alike often encounter paranoia when they attempt to engage the anti-vax community. They face accusations of being shills paid by Big Pharma to sway the narrative and keep “vaccine choice” activists from spreading The Truth.

 

[Gyre]

Except it does.
Guys like Alex Berenson are not retarded apes. They have well researched and well though out stances with great information, they are however, deliberately and intentionally sidelined, ridiculed and silenced by major networks and platforms.

He is just one gentleman but I have not found anything that he has shared before to be accurate? Before the pandemic, he had flawed views of marijuana which he was also criticized for.

He isn't being sidelined for beign opposition, he is being sidelined for drawing incorrect conclusions. He is fantastic anywhere else where medical stuff isn't concerned but isn't he a businessman, not a doctor?

 

[porchrat]

Except it does.
Guys like Alex Berenson are not retarded apes. They have well researched and well though out stances with great information, they are however, deliberately and intentionally sidelined, ridiculed and silenced by major networks and platforms.

I know darling, the vaccine's terrible. It's all a conspiracy by Big Pharma.

They changed the definitions. It's all out there sheeple.

Getting tired of wading through the lunacy and ignorance to find the actual science my dude. Every thread is just inundated with it on this forum these days.

 

[Geoff.D]

Did you read the whole thing? It was a copy/paste dump and they included the query as well as the response, which is this:

The reply from Pfizer very neatly dodges the elephant in the room, which is still what happens if the vaccine is injected into a blood vessel, or leaks into the circulatory system? THAT is still the issue!. Pfizer's reply hinges on the CORRECT administration of the vaccine into muscular tissue with a slow-release into the body.

It is the deliberate avoidance of the critical issues by Pfizer that gets people upset.

 

[JohnStarr]

The reply from Pfizer very neatly dodges the elephant in the room, which is still what happens if the vaccine is injected into a blood vessel, or leaks into the circulatory system? THAT is still the issue!. Pfizer's reply hinges on the CORRECT administration of the vaccine into muscular tissue with a slow-release into the body.

It is the deliberate avoidance of the critical issues by Pfizer that gets people upset.

Are you back onto this one? You had the reply in the IVM forum you have thankfully left. A pharmacist and a doctor both gave you a lot of information around this.

 

[PsyWulf]

The reply from Pfizer very neatly dodges the elephant in the room, which is still what happens if the vaccine is injected into a blood vessel, or leaks into the circulatory system? THAT is still the issue!. Pfizer's reply hinges on the CORRECT administration of the vaccine into muscular tissue with a slow-release into the body.

It is the deliberate avoidance of the critical issues by Pfizer that gets people upset.

Go back to your cave,you've been answered. There is no elephant except you and that I wish we could ignore that elephant

 

[Gyre]

The reply from Pfizer very neatly dodges the elephant in the room, which is still what happens if the vaccine is injected into a blood vessel, or leaks into the circulatory system? THAT is still the issue!. Pfizer's reply hinges on the CORRECT administration of the vaccine into muscular tissue with a slow-release into the body.

It is the deliberate avoidance of the critical issues by Pfizer that gets people upset.

Pfizer has done a lot of dodgy **** in the past(and good) but their trials in this instance have been seemingly thorough. Even if there are questions, just post all the info.

I have seen the question, I have seen pfizer's response but I have not seen a follow up to it. Would the japanese also have not raised this sooner if there was concern? It seems 77% of Japan is now vaccinated.

 

[Geoff.D]

Pfizer has done a lot of dodgy **** in the past(and good) but their trials in this instance have been seemingly thorough. Even if there are questions, just post all the info.

I have seen the question, I have seen pfizer's response but I have not seen a follow up to it. Would the japanese also have not raised this sooner if there was concern? It seems 77% of Japan is now vaccinated.

The added problem is we are relying on translations of documents written in Japanese, which most of us are not able to verify also. I have seen other references where quite a few Japanese experts have expressed concern about the accidental injection of the vaccines directly into blood vessels and also leaking into the circulatory system via the capillaries.

So, unfortunately for all of us, there are still lots of loose ends to this debate. As far as I am concerned the jury is still out ----
People, especially fit sportspeople, ARE having all sorts of cardio-vascular issues, that have NOT been addressed very well by any of the vaccine manufacturers.

 

[zolly]

Go back to your cave,you've been answered. There is no elephant except you and that I wish we could ignore that elephant

You can.

(Looks at the growing number of anti-vax nutters on my ignore list).

 

[PsyWulf]

(Looks at the growing number of anti-vax nutters on my ignore list).

Can't get rid of the **** smell from their oral orifices unfortunately,well,maybe with napalm

 

[Tim_vb]

(Trigger warning for anti vaxxers)

I found this thread going into the 30 years of mRNA vaccine research very interesting. The below timeline show how the typical multi year vaccine testing schedule was compressed into one year under Operation Warp Speed.

This is pretty much the landing a man on the moon for this decade (yes the moon landing were also real )

 

[SoldierMan]

 

[HunterNW]

Had the J&J jab. Next morning felt like someone moered me on my arm.
So for all the gamers and soccer players here - stay away.