Vapers to be classified as smokers for insurance

[RaptorSA]

I hope so.
I hope SA bans this disgusting **** the same way regular cigarettes are banned.

This reminds me of that one guy we have at work who's the only person to ever complain about the docile vapers minding their business far away from anyone.

The only time I've seen him at work with a friend was the one he built by carefully stacking peanuts on top of his vegan meal. Too bad he had to eat it.
Felt almost sorry for the guy.

 

[pinball wizard]

Well, well, well.

Things I learnt today. Vapers are really easy to troll and they seem slightly more sensitive than atheists.

 

[RaptorSA]

Will you enjoy me coughing in your face?
No?
Keep your vape clouds away from the rest of us then.
Thanks.

I've got really bad news for you.
Just because you can actually see the vaporized glycerine clouds from a vaper doesn't mean you're not getting everyone else's breath constantly flowing through your uppity nose.

 

[noxibox]

Do people who complain about a little vapour live on a mountaintop somewhere? I've just wondering how they'd ever cope with the city, where there are all those fumes from cars, trucks and everything else.

 

[noxibox]

Last time I checked, no sane human willingly chooses to sit in traffic.

It has nothing to do with choosing. It is a higher risk.

 

[noxibox]

this is the reason why the insurance companies test for Cotinine rather than the actual Nicotine. Cotinine stays in your body longer and it is a metabolite of smoking Nicotine, you cannot inhale Cotinine and the amount of Cotinine found in your body can give them an approximation if you are a smoker, how many smokes you smoke a day or if you are only one smoke a day type of person. It can actually give them an approximation if you are trying to quit and they can actually see the Cotinine levels from low level Nicotine use such as in the gum or patches.

Gum or patches don't imply low level nicotine use. Someone who has stopped smoking can continue to consume large quantities of nicotine. If it did imply low level nicotine use then so would vaping. It delivers nicotine faster than gum, but far slower than smoking. That's the reason some smokers don't take to vaping. There is also a difference in the form of nicotine delivered. But they can definitely detect significant cotinine in regular users of the non-smoking methods of consuming nicotine. They'd have to look at other signs the person was actually smoking it.

 

[MEIOT]

I hope so.

I hope SA bans this disgusting **** the same way regular cigarettes are banned.

Might want to look up the meaning of banned. Hate to break it to you but cigarettes aren't banned in this country.

 

[noxibox]

Many vapers use nicotine free vapes, what now?

Well if we assume that vaping is actually very dangerous that person could probably get away with paying a lower premium while still engaging in the risky behaviour. For now until there is some way to prove that someone was vaping.

 

[RaptorSA]

Might want to look up the meaning of banned. Hate to break it to you but cigarettes aren't banned in this country.

We both fell hook line & sinker for a sarcasm troll post...
I blame the Joburg humidity.

 

[konfab]

It has nothing to do with choosing. It is a higher risk.

It actually does.
The medical insurance rules in the US are not permitted to discriminate against someone who has a pre-existing condition. You getting sick from air pollution isn't really something that you can control.
https://obamacarefacts.com/pre-existing-conditions/

Smoking however is entirely preventable. Thus insurers are allowed to charge people more for smoking.
https://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-smokers/

 

[Sl8er]

Curious.

What if you don't smoke, but live with a smoker?
You're going to be inhaling second hand smoke all the time.
Are insurances going to charge you more because they detected nicotine in your body, even though you don't smoke?

 

[pinball wizard]

What if you don't smoke, but live with a smoker?

Why would you?

 

[MEIOT]

Curious.

What if you don't smoke, but live with a smoker?
You're going to be inhaling second hand smoke all the time.
Are insurances going to charge you more because they detected nicotine in your body, even though you don't smoke?

No - they just won't pay out after your autopsy is concluded.

 

[Sl8er]

No - they just won't pay out after your autopsy is concluded.

That's fcked up, if true.

 

[clickingbuttons]

I vaped so much yesterday that today I woke up with what felt like bronchitis :/

 

[Toxxyc]

Well, well, well.

Things I learnt today. Vapers are really easy to troll and they seem slightly more sensitive than atheists.

That's because vapers have a god. It's powered by a Li-Ion 18650.

 

[RaptorSA]

I vaped so much yesterday that today I woke up with what felt like bronchitis :/

Are you relatively new to vaping?

 

[clickingbuttons]

Are you relatively new to vaping?

No, I've been vaping for years, and also I vape plant MJ not glycol laced with nicotine.

It's healthier sure, but a persons lungs has their limits definitley.

 

[MEIOT]

No, I've been vaping for years, and also I vape plant MJ not glycol laced with nicotine.

It's healthier sure, but a persons lungs has their limits definitley.

Vaping plant marijuana? How so? CBD juice?

 

[clickingbuttons]

Vaping plant marijuana? How so? CBD juice?

I use something called a Volcano Vaporizer.

Here is a guy on youtbe reviewing one:

If you smoke MJ I can highly reccomend it but my lungs still feel sore as hell after 30 bags in a day.