Vapers to be classified as smokers for insurance

[Creag]

I think they should also increase premiums for those who suck on those candy cigarettes, they look like cigarettes so they must be harmful as well.

And exclude health-related issues from said candy things.

 

[Beyond.Celsus]

So if I came to your office the staff would prefer me to fart than to vape...

What does preference have to do with farting?
You HAVE to fart sometime.

you DO NOT have to vape.

Edit:
I will also ad this. When needing to fart people generally try and avoid people as much as possible, because they feel shame.

Vapers seem to look for as many people as possible before blowing as big a vape cloud as possible, cause look me i r vapour pro yeet so kuwl.

 

[daveza]

Come on guys, I'm resorting to the ridiculous because the anti-vape squad ranks us next to scum of the earth but when asked why the best you come up with is oooh we have to walk though a cloud and it's unpleasant.'

Walking into an office when someone is eating an onion burger / egg sandwich makes me want to throw up - am I supposed to start a ban the burger and sarmie campaign ?

Vaping is the most innocuous pastime - I vape in this flat all day and I challenge anyone to smell anything different to the flat next door.

You are welcome to think we look like wankers, that doesn't bother me but you're going to need something more to persuade me that it's affecting your life to the unbearable level suggested by all the whining.

 

[Beyond.Celsus]

Why do you have to vape in crowded areas? Restaurants? Busy malls?
Why can you not just move to a spot where you do not have to bother other people?

You will find that most peoples opinion of vaping will change considerably if the majority started showing consideration for those around them.
As it stands, the majority do not give a stuff. They feel far to kuwl blowing a metal rod wherever and whenever they please.

 

[daveza]

Why do you have to vape in crowded areas? Restaurants? Busy malls?
Why can you not just move to a spot where you do not have to bother other people?

I do.

Yes, some vapers are inconsiderate assholes, just like some drivers are inconsiderate assholes, but I don't damn everyone behind the wheel because of it.

 

[Beyond.Celsus]

I do.

Yes, some vapers are inconsiderate assholes, just like some drivers are inconsiderate assholes, but I don't damn everyone behind the wheel because of it.

We do however have many traffic laws and fines, because of it.

It is why we can't have nice things.

You can't drive how and where you want, can you?

 

[daveza]

Cigarettes have an average of 12mg (between 8-20mg depending on brand) of Nicotine per cigarette. Your nicotine patches give out 15mg per day which is about the equivalent of 1 cigarette a day (and this is also for the first 4 weeks) thereafter the users switch to a lower patch which only gives about 5mg per day of Nicotine. Also your Nicotine gum only give on average about 2-4mg per gum of nicotine so as you can see the alternatives are a lot less and will be detected on a cotinine test as a lot lower



If you are vaping with non Nicotine liquids you are not going to detect nicotine at all therefore it will not be detected in the test but if you are vaping with Nicotine based liquids then it will be detected and as the chart shows below some of the nicotine based vapes are high in nicotine

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Holy crap, who in their right mind vapes 36mg nicotine - I tried 12mg once and my lungs almost prolapsed.