Villagers raise R135k to build bridge across deadly river

TheChamp

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It's a short span. Probably overengineered any way.
People underestimate the skills of rural folks, they might not be qualified but there are many skilled people there with years and years of experience in various trades, building and construction being one of them.

That's why tenders are just nonsense, you can get a project manager, an Engineer, a couple technicians and many local projects can be done directly by the government using local labour.
 

ForceFate

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People underestimate the skills of rural folks, they might not be qualified but there are many skilled people there with years and years of experience in various trades, building and construction being one of them.

That's why tenders are just nonsense, you can get a project manager, an Engineer, a couple technicians and many local projects can be done directly by the government using local labour.
(Un)fortunately you need the paper trail. Else the politicians will take advantage of this and allow their cronies to cut corners for profit.
 

Sinbad

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135k?
That won't cover the cost of the politicians thinking about whether they need a feasibility study.
Oh and by feasibility study, I mean figuring out which piggie gets what percentage of the take.
 

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Not at all. I think it's wonderful that South Africans, black and white are slowly seeing that the cANCer are not coming to save you, you have to do things for yourself. With any luck 'we' as South Africans can run these thieving cockroaches out of the country.

I do find it kind of cute that you have cross posted just to be relevant in this thread, comrade.
 

ForceFate

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Not at all. I think it's wonderful that South Africans, black and white are slowly seeing that the cANCer are not coming to save you, you have to do things for yourself. With any luck 'we' as South Africans can run these thieving cockroaches out of the country.

I do find it kind of cute that you have cross posted just to be relevant in this thread, comrade.
I post anything and anywhere I want. I don't care what the naysayers say. Relevance? Elaborate.
 

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Here, ladies and gentlemen, we see the rare African solutions to African problems in the wild..

The best time to observe one is usually after their chosen government has repeatedly ignored their requests & protesting doesn't get them noticed anymore.

If we can breed these ideas in captivity and they spread to other communities there might be hope for the country yet..
 

ForceFate

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Here, ladies and gentlemen, we see the rare African solutions to African problems in the wild..
Community initiatives aren't rare. Where I come from, communities have crowdfunded for boreholes, subsistence farming, sport kits, community hall, etc
The best time to observe one is usually after their chosen government has repeatedly ignored their requests & protesting doesn't get them noticed anymore.
In many communities these initiatives have been going on for many years. You know many communities dig graves on their own, don't you? They never rely on municipal services.
If we can breed these ideas in captivity and they spread to other communities there might be hope for the country yet..
They're there. The're just no pretty pictures to show them.
 

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Should be possible if they build a suspension bridge. But those are quite complex to get right.

Someone has already done the work for an 80 foot bridge. Which should be enough to span the river at a high enough level.
https://www.instructables.com/Building-a-Small-Cable-Suspension-Bridge/

Golden opportunity for Afriforum to step in and send in a civil engineer to help them make the thing work with the resources they have (Nice engineering challenge as well). Would save these people make the best use of the limited resources they have.
 

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People underestimate the skills of rural folks, they might not be qualified but there are many skilled people there with years and years of experience in various trades, building and construction being one of them.

That's why tenders are just nonsense, you can get a project manager, an Engineer, a couple technicians and many local projects can be done directly by the government using local labour.

Oh I personally don't underestimate the skill of rural folk, but where I question things is obviously their means to do things the right way... in this example, they will build that bridge, and it will last a good number of years and be safer than anything the municipality would offer for even 100x the amount they're spending. But its a given that it will be built with the limited knowledge and resources they have and corners will be cut that means it won't last as long as it could and it won't be as safe as it really should.

Also, as much as a person has experience in the building/construction trade, if their experience is being a labourer then they have zero sight of all the engineering behind things and the reason things are down the way they are for certain things.
 

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People underestimate the skills of rural folks, they might not be qualified but there are many skilled people there with years and years of experience in various trades, building and construction being one of them.

Any idiot can make a bridge. The difficulty comes in making it with limited resources.
 
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