Sign up with Googlesecurity ussue on vodacom. Activated look4me on a vodacom phone, prepaid then abandoned the phone a year ago. Checked this am and lo and belod number has been re-allocated. Im in Bloem. the phone is Tembisa. The look4me is still activated so I can follow the guy where ever he/she goes. Surely vodacom should de-activate look4me before re-assigning. I just wonder how many people are following me? WARNING check ure simcard if its new!Some one can phone to get ure name then track u. Hijakers dream
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Vodacom's Look4me service
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caspa
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Dude, google "look for me"
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Well that’s scary to say the least. I hope you reported this to Vodacom?
Sorry Mabe I am stupid but I only get this
I have look4me and you can not just get a name and then track the person.
The person have to give consent to being tracked. I understand that they did not notice that the number expired and got recycled to some one else.
What am I missing?
Cannot track any number you wish
Hey guys,
I dont think that you can just track any number you wish, you would have to get permission from the other person before you are able to track them.
Have a look at this extract from http://www.cellular.co.za/news_2004/march/030104-vodacom_south_africa_launches_lo.htm
"The primary concern regarding location-based services is that cellphone users should never be subjected to any invasion of privacy. Look4me ensures that you can never be located without first providing your explicit consent by granting location rights to a specific cellphone number. After granting location rights, you can at any time view or cancel the cell numbers that may locate you. It is also possible to temporarily suspend a user from locating you. (See "Notes to Editors" for additional security information).
These safety mechanisms ensure that Look4me complies with all applicable South African legislation and the constitutional right to privacy."
Hey guys,
I dont think that you can just track any number you wish, you would have to get permission from the other person before you are able to track them.
Have a look at this extract from http://www.cellular.co.za/news_2004/march/030104-vodacom_south_africa_launches_lo.htm
"The primary concern regarding location-based services is that cellphone users should never be subjected to any invasion of privacy. Look4me ensures that you can never be located without first providing your explicit consent by granting location rights to a specific cellphone number. After granting location rights, you can at any time view or cancel the cell numbers that may locate you. It is also possible to temporarily suspend a user from locating you. (See "Notes to Editors" for additional security information).
These safety mechanisms ensure that Look4me complies with all applicable South African legislation and the constitutional right to privacy."
I have been using the 'Look4Me' service for two years now. Other than having to expressly grant permission to be 'traced' the Look4Me service sends an automated SMS once a month to the handset that is on the active trace list, informing them that they are able to be traced. The SMS also contains details of how to be removed from the Look4Me service.
Its not really cloak and dagger stuff.
Its not really cloak and dagger stuff.
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The point he is trying to make is that he activated (gave consent) for look4me on his prepaid number. prepaid window expired, and the number was allocated to someone else (now in Tembisa). The look4me option is still active on that number, even though the person giving consent to be tracked does not have the number anymore
serious vodacom security issue
I abandoned a pre paid sim card after activating look4me on it. the phone number has been allocated to some one else but I can still trace the phone via look 4me (cellfind). When I reported (e-mailed) vodacom there attitude was alarming. Im meant to, at my expense, send some sort of sms to a number at my expense. They did not take the trouble to phone the new customer and warn him or they simply cant cancell look4me. If I was a pervert I could track the new owner of the number and invite her for coffee by just phoning to see what she looks like or whether the car is worth hijacking or when the person is not at home. I just wonder how many other vodacom customers are beeing tracked. Any criminal can by a few hundred prepaid sim cards, activate look4me, wait a while and then start tracking the new number owners card. A burglars/rapists/paedophiles dream. Ive given up on vodacom and have faxed this fact to our local newspaper
I abandoned a pre paid sim card after activating look4me on it. the phone number has been allocated to some one else but I can still trace the phone via look 4me (cellfind). When I reported (e-mailed) vodacom there attitude was alarming. Im meant to, at my expense, send some sort of sms to a number at my expense. They did not take the trouble to phone the new customer and warn him or they simply cant cancell look4me. If I was a pervert I could track the new owner of the number and invite her for coffee by just phoning to see what she looks like or whether the car is worth hijacking or when the person is not at home. I just wonder how many other vodacom customers are beeing tracked. Any criminal can by a few hundred prepaid sim cards, activate look4me, wait a while and then start tracking the new number owners card. A burglars/rapists/paedophiles dream. Ive given up on vodacom and have faxed this fact to our local newspaper
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I'll take it up to get the systems sorted (please PM me the relevant numbers, so we can trace) but I think you're over-reacting a bit.
As already explained anyone being tracked are informed about it and I'm not sure how your scheme would work.
You expect someone to buy a bunch of pre-paid sims, pay to track them, wait months (typically nearly a year) for the numbers to be re-allocated (while you're paying the monthly subscriptions). When the number are eventually re-assigned (7 months inactivity + new sim production & distribution period), you have no idea who will get it. And that person will in any case be alerted that s/he is being tracked.
Furthermore, the cell-resolution implies that you will never know who actually has the SIM. Could be anyone in a few square kilometers. Look4me works because you know who you are tracking. For example, you are 'tracking' this person in Tembisa. Even if you go there, who is it? You've got no idea. Could be anyone in the area with a mobile phone....
Also note, this is not a Vodacom service at all but is hosted by an external WASP. You register with them and they manage the whole process. Vodacom does not carry any information on who registered with which WAP for what service.
So the whole concept is just not feasible. Maybe fax the above explanation to your local newspaper, if you don't mind.
Again, please PM me the numbers and we can trace them to see where the system broke down.
BTW, have you been paying all these months for tracking the number? If so, you should cancel it, if not, there must be a bug in the WASP system and we should alert them.
PS. I've reported it to look4me and they'll also look into it. Just need the numbers.
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re my post. I am reluctant to give out the guys cell number on this forum. when I try to phone hime to warn him to fix the problem from his side the phone just rings or is engaged at last try. Obviously I can cancel this number from my puter but am reluctant to do so untill I am convinced the problem wont repeat. If anyone is interested he is currently on the n12(north reef road) germiston. regarding the funding I pay R11-13 base fee for the service. also it seems that the service stays connected unless otherwise stated. the locatee pays nothing and would probably assume the message is spam. If the news paper contacts me I will certainly advise them to contact vodacom for comment. I have e-mailed the relevant number to vodacom but in the past two days they have done nothing. also 3g the locatee pays nothing so I would buy the sim cards, make them locatable from my puter then throw the cards away and wait the 7 months at no cost other than the R11-13 monthly cost. Then sms them and make contact.
re my post. I am reluctant to give out the guys cell number on this forum. when I try to phone hime to warn him to fix the problem from his side the phone just rings or is engaged at last try. Obviously I can cancel this number from my puter but am reluctant to do so untill I am convinced the problem wont repeat. If anyone is interested he is currently on the n12(north reef road) germiston. regarding the funding I pay R11-13 base fee for the service. also it seems that the service stays connected unless otherwise stated. the locatee pays nothing and would probably assume the message is spam. If the news paper contacts me I will certainly advise them to contact vodacom for comment. I have e-mailed the relevant number to vodacom but in the past two days they have done nothing. also 3g the locatee pays nothing so I would buy the sim cards, make them locatable from my puter then throw the cards away and wait the 7 months at no cost other than the R11-13 monthly cost. Then sms them and make contact.
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Maybe the person knows you're using look4me to track his|her movements, and won't answer thinking you're stalking him|her?
About posting the number, don't post it, send it to v3g via private message...
didnt think of that, the person might think I am stalking but this proves the point. Imagine getting an anonymous phone call to the effect that the caller knows ure movements or makes a phone call to ascertain the persons age and sex then say"Im at the shop down the road, would you like an ice cream" would be terryfying. anyway thanks for info as how to send the number to 3g. Im sure the issue will be sorted. If the paper contacts me I will now be able to say the issue is beeing actively persued and I am satisfied with response. I better get back to work. cheers
interestingly nothing has been done about this issue. I can still track the person. there is a serious security issue with recycled numbers. I we-mailed vodacom and cellfind last wednesday. only 3g contacted me. iany body who has a recent sim card should log onto look4me and check if they are locatable
I've not forwarded the numbers yet as I'm still waiting for you to send the second one.
/Edit. The WASP have removed the number and you won't be able to track it any more.
PS. I still would like to know how you would have found this person, even if you knew his/fer general location?
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luckily i got through to the guy on his phone. I doubt if he understood the issue, he was in doornfontein but didnt seem to be woried i knew were he was. I advised him to contacr vodacom help desk. Anyways the fix is simple, register any new sim card, it will cost R11, check if the card is locatable, then cancell. Particularly if your kids hava a cell phone. I did e-mail cellfind and vodacom. they dont seem to see this as an issue so I am probably just paranoid. But i would never give a kid a cell phone without checking
luckily i got through to the guy on his phone. I doubt if he understood the issue, he was in doornfontein but didnt seem to be woried i knew were he was. I advised him to contacr vodacom help desk. Anyways the fix is simple, register any new sim card, it will cost R11, check if the card is locatable, then cancell. Particularly if your kids hava a cell phone. I did e-mail cellfind and vodacom. they dont seem to see this as an issue so I am probably just paranoid. But i would never give a kid a cell phone without checking