VOIP charges

oronte

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Can someone confirm the cost of VOIP on MTN? Fring is now available for the P990i and I'd like to use it, but I remember something about a R25 charge for use of Voip, can someone please confirm what I'll be charged now if I use it?
 

MrG

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They are allowed to apparently charge R25 per MB of data, however ive been using VOIP and it has been fine. The sessions are billed at normal data tariffs/removed from data bundle.

I use Truphone on my Nokia N95.
 

AirWolf

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I think they 'reserve' the right to charge you more for VOIP. They may not charge you now, but you may receive a shock in future bills :rolleyes:
 

MrG

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If MTN does that to me at a later stage, and back bills me, they lose me as a customer FOREVER. Get everyone I know of MTN and warn them of what they did, and im always good at making it sound like it could happen to them.

So yeah, I didnt join MTN this year for the first time to be threatened.
 

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Voldemort

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Fring sounds pretty interesting, any idea what other phones can make use of it?
 

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Im well familiar with our terms and conditions, im not always in the habit of agreeing but i dont make the rules;)
 

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Guys I have discussed this issue before and I'm not going into details with it again.

Facts are

1. VOIP is direct competion for Cellular use in general
2. MTN has made it's stance very clear about this.
3. If this is deamed to be instituted the people will be notified in advance.
4. MTN has publicly noted this and unlike the others who has the same ideas MTN is not hiding anything to their users.

Yes MTN can bill that if they see it fit.

Are they doing it currently
NO

So there is no answer to this till the day comes that this is amended or charged for accordingly. That simple.
 

AirWolf

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Guys I have discussed this issue before and I'm not going into details with it again.

Facts are

1. VOIP is direct competion for Cellular use in general
2. MTN has made it's stance very clear about this.
3. If this is deamed to be instituted the people will be notified in advance.
4. MTN has publicly noted this and unlike the others who has the same ideas MTN is not hiding anything to their users.

Yes MTN can bill that if they see it fit.

Are they doing it currently
NO

So there is no answer to this till the day comes that this is amended or charged for accordingly. That simple.


That's the bit that worries me, because no eplanation of "see it fit" is given:eek:
 

JohnnyG

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Facts are

1. VOIP is direct competion for Cellular use in general
2. MTN has made it's stance very clear about this.
3. If this is deamed to be instituted the people will be notified in advance.
4. MTN has publicly noted this and unlike the others who has the same ideas MTN is not hiding anything to their users.

Yes MTN can bill that if they see it fit.

Are they doing it currently
NO

Thank you for laying out the answer so neatly, and directly. Quite frankly, I understand why MTN are making a stance like this. Its good business practice to protect yourself from "new tech" that could potentially destroy much of your market share.

However, one thing that SA telecoms (and other) companies don't seem to realize is that the user is in control. The user dictates what he wants to do, and the price he will pay, not the operator! Fighting the user will slow down the proccess of adoption, but it will not stop it! Fring WILL take over a meaty share of voice calls in SA.

So, who's scared?
MTN - will be forced to carry large amounts of data traffic, while loosing a lot of standard (GSM) voice calls that they make far more money on.

Non Symbian / Windows Mobile - cell users who have "older" cellphones will be sure to get a Symbian phone with their next upgrage, which probably means a Nokia. Again.. possibly making Nokia the unchallenged top dog in the cell hardware market. (potentially).

Telkom and all telecoms operators - will be forced to drop prices, and come out with packages like the Closer300 Closer500, etc. These packages are now available to curb the mass adoption of Voip on PC (ie, Skype).


Who wins?

The user - thats you, and me! We will be able to comunicate for less, allowing for better business, closer family relationships, and more spending money. :D

So.. yes, it sounds all very far fetched at this point. But ifI told you 10 years ago that you could take a photo with your cellphone you would also have told me it far fetched too. Tech changes the world!

So... if yu have a Symbian or Widows mobile cellphone, get over to www.Fring.com and take it for a test ride. I have, and WOW. Im never going back! ..punt punt ! :D
 
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Dont

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Voip over 3G

I think that the quality of VOIP over 3G is terrible and the 3G coverage is also useless, these factors alone will curb this going mainstream for a long time to come. While Fring is a great idea, looks good and shoves the thorn in the side, (WHICH IM HAPPY TO SUPPORT) as a proper tool, its still a half baked delivery of what the technology is ideally supposed to deliver. As it is, making a business call over GSM and being continually dropped or fading out, is bad enough. I have started to use my Telkom line more often for this very reason. (Whats more important, cost savings or reliable clear voice calls when doing business?) In reality who would chance those important business calls to Fring / Skype right now. Its one thing saving 50 %, (just a figure) that would be real competition, but to add up, the quality must be equivalent.

my 5c, discount it if you please.
 

MTN083

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They don't keep records of data records of anyone surfing, so they won't be able to back bill anyone.

They are implementing means and ways to bill and block different services but still trying to get it off the ground.
 
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