Vryburger Nazi salute at school sparks outrage

[OhYeah84]

And what is that intention?

I guess it is synonymous with the Nazi drive to exterminate the Jews and Romas etc, while trying to take over the whole of Europe.
It was the idea to get people to do the same thing for a leader who was clearly off his rocker at the best of times.

Sure, the Romans also did that, but it's also ancient history. Misdirect this as you so wish.

 

[ForceFate]

The same symbol can have very different meanings depending on the culture and context it is used in.

Let's take this story as example.

These people claim they are not using the Nazi salute but rather the traditional Roman salute.
Do you think this symbol had the same meaning for the Romans as they did for the Nazi's?

The swastika, the salute and the eagle on a swastika. Verwoerd (white supremacy). What more do you want to see?

 

[OhYeah84]

The swastika, the salute and the eagle on a swastika. Verwoerd (white supremacy). What more do you want to see?

BuT, bUt...iT's KiDs! /s

 

[Gyre]

The same symbol can have very different meanings depending on the culture and context it is used in.

Let's take this story as example.

These people claim they are not using the Nazi salute but rather the traditional Roman salute.
Do you think this symbol had the same meaning for the Romans as they did for the Nazi's?

Is it any different to Malema singing Kiss the Farmer?

 

[ForceFate]

BuT, bUt...iT's KiDs! /s

Supremacists hiding under the "free speech" banner.

 

[OhYeah84]

Supremacists hiding under the "free speech" banner.

Well, yes...it's all free speech until it affects them. This is simply hate speech.
Not sure if they historically challenged actually knew (or did a simple Google search) but it's illegal to pull the Nazi salute in Germany. Funny that...

 

[OhYeah84]

Is it any different to Malema singing Kiss the Farmer?

Shouldn't be...we all know exactly what he means by that.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

The same symbol can have very different meanings depending on the culture and context it is used in.

Let's take this story as example.

These people claim they are not using the Nazi salute but rather the traditional Roman salute.
Do you think this symbol had the same meaning for the Romans as they did for the Nazi's?

Unfortunately we ALL know that that is an old BS excuse and NOT the meaning behind that salute.

Then they should have been wearing centurion outfits, and displayed Romain Legion banners and pictures of Caesar.

These people are fukking idiots and on the same level as the EFF singing "Kill the Farmer, Kill the Boer".

There are many other ways to express pride and unity, apart from fukked-up Nazi imagery.

When back home I was driving once after picking my kids up from school.
Looked over to my left at the traffic lights and saw a tappet in a little Toyota bakkie...with the old SA flag on his dashboard.

I just looked at it and at him and shook my head.

He went batshit...rubbing his arm and giving me thumbs-ups as if to say look..."White...good...proud."

I've never been so embarrassed in my life...until my 11yo daughter flipped him the middle finger.

He nearly made an accident while we laughed all the way home.

Just my little anecdote...

 

[HunterNW]

Well, yes...it's all free speech until it affects them. This is simply hate speech.
Not sure if they historically challenged actually knew (or did a simple Google search) but it's illegal to pull the Nazi salute in Germany. Funny that...

This ain't Germany. Funny that...

 

[ForceFate]

This ain't Germany. Funny that...

Learn to coexist (peacefully) with thy neighbour. Be a decent human being. If you feel strongly about neo-nazism, build a shrine away from curious public eyes. It's that simple.

 

[HunterNW]

Learn to coexist (peacefully) with thy neighbour. Be a decent human being. If you feel strongly about neo-nazism, build a shrine away from curious public eyes. It's that simple.

Agree. I never stood up for the Vryburgers. I'm standing up for the kids who's being intimidated because ADULTS are fcking C^unts.

 

[OhYeah84]

This ain't Germany. Funny that...

You're a bright spark aren't you. Small spark, but at least you've got something going...

And clearly missed the point again.

 

[OhYeah84]

Agree. I never stood up for the Vryburgers. I'm standing up for the kids who's being intimidated because ADULTS are fcking C^unts.

Kids have Internet. Even in a dorp as far away as Rustenburg. It's a simple fact the salute is indicative of a very tragic period in human history.

 

[HunterNW]

You're a bright spark aren't you. Small spark, but at least you've got something going...

And clearly missed the point again.

Which part of "Moving On" don't you get ? Maybe go ask your clever 11 year old.

 

[Fulcrum29]

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[HunterNW]

Kids have Internet. Even in a dorp as far away as Rustenburg. It's a simple fact the salute is indicative of a very tragic period in human history.

My fok ou. You're just bloody ignorant ? Do you think kids sit and google that kak ? My fok. They tiktok or Instagram or play games - not google schit from years ago.

 

[OhYeah84]

He went batshit...rubbing his arm and giving me thumbs-ups as if to say look..."White...good...proud."

...maybe the oomie's arm was sore.../jokes. I dislike that sort of schit.
They must go be controversial elsewhere.

 

[OhYeah84]

My fok ou. You're just bloody ignorant ? Do you think kids sit and google that kak ? My fok. They tiktok or Instagram or play games - not google schit from years ago.

OK, so you're also intellectually challenged. Don't breed...

 

[Phylax]

The swastika, the salute and the eagle on a swastika. Verwoerd (white supremacy). What more do you want to see?

Rofl, Verwoerd was a white supremacist?!

Anyways, the salute is the Roman Salute, the eagle is called the Reichsasdler (derived from the Roman eagle standard) and the swastika that came from Buddhism.

Every single of these symbols have completely different meanings depending on the context and culture it is being used in.

 

[OhYeah84]

My fok ou. You're just bloody ignorant ? Do you think kids sit and google that kak ? My fok. They tiktok or Instagram or play games - not google schit from years ago.

Would you be OK with some other race burning pictures of Oom Verwoed or Oom Eugene? Or is that not free speech...would it also be OK to just say those kids also only used TikTok/Youtube etc.