Vumacam footage is being used in insurance claim investigations

[genetic]

This data will never end up in the wrong hands.

There's more chance of it being used for good overall than getting in the "wrong hands". What are the "wrong hands" going to do with it anyway?

If the AI algorithms on the CCTV network can identify potential bad situations, and aid in quick law enforcement or emergency response time - then that's a good thing.

 

[Willie Trombone]

There's more chance of it being used for good overall than getting in the "wrong hands". What are the "wrong hands" going to do with it anyway?

If the AI algorithms on the CCTV network can identify potential bad situations, and aid in quick law enforcement or emergency response time - then that's a good thing.

Tell us more. You seem to know something the rest of us don't.

 

[genetic]

Tell us more. You seem to know something the rest of us don't.

What do you want to know?

 

[Willie Trombone]

What do you want to know?

The info you have about how AI is going to "identify potentially bad situations"

 

[genetic]

The info you have about how AI is going to "identify potentially bad situations"

Lots of examples.

Vumacam technology enables joint response from SAPS Flying Squad, private security companies and JMPD to intercept dangerous suspects

SAPS Flying Squad spotted a suspicious vehicle with four occupants in Johannesburg CBD and began pursuit of the vehicle, which unfortunately managed to evade the SAPS unit. SAPS immediately contacted off-site monitoring firm AI Surveillance (AIS) to keep a lookout for the vehicle. The AIS team quickly added the vehicle details to the vehicle of interest (VOI) database. Shortly afterward, the vehicle triggered an alert on a Vumacam in Rosebank. The alert was then automatically sent in real time to SAPS and JMPD as well as all private security companies signed up to the Vumacam network. These responders then began a high-speed chase of the vehicle.

The four suspects were arrested on William Nicol Drive after an extensive high-speed car chase that started in the Johannesburg CBD.

Shortly afterwards, the vehicle triggered a VOI alert on a Vumacam pole in Parktown North which alerted security company 24/7, which immediately dispatched a vehicle to intercept the vehicle. The alert was also sent in real-time to the SAPS and JMPD via the E2 War Room (E2 is the Business Against Crime SA’s Eyes & Ears Project) which sent the SAPS Flying Squad into a high-speed chase of the vehicle.

AI Surveillance – Vuma Secure

www.vumacam.co.za

Vumacam AI surveillance helps police corner criminals

AI-based cameras help bust four suspects on William Nicol Drive after an extensive high-speed car chase that started in the Johannesburg CBD.

www.itweb.co.za

 

[Thor]

License plate recognition over time generates very accurate movement patterns
for a vehicle. The power is not the camera, but the database.

Excellent crime fighting tool given it is in the right hands - total disaster in the
wrong hands.

You just need 1 member of a syndicate/saps in the video control room..

Ticking time bomb..

This is why I am in two minds, our approach was the database to give to vetted small private security (not saps).

 

[Willie Trombone]

Lots of examples.

AI Surveillance – Vuma Secure

www.vumacam.co.za

Vumacam AI surveillance helps police corner criminals

AI-based cameras help bust four suspects on William Nicol Drive after an extensive high-speed car chase that started in the Johannesburg CBD.

www.itweb.co.za

Not sure that has anything to do with the article.
I'm fine with law enforcement using cameras.

 

[genetic]

Not sure that has anything to do with the article.
I'm fine with law enforcement using cameras.

Insurance companies are using it to fight fraud. What's wrong with that? Fraudulent claims are one of the reasons our insurance premiums are so high. Fraud is a crime too.

I've provided examples of the success of the Vumacam network, so maybe out of fairness, perhaps provide examples where the Vumacam network has fallen in the "wrong hands"?

Also insurance companies can get access to any old CCTV camera's footage if they really want.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Insurance companies are using it to fight fraud. What's wrong with that? Fraudulent claims are one of the reasons our insurance premiums are so high. Fraud is a crime too.

I've provided examples of the success of the Vumacam network, so maybe out of fairness, perhaps provide examples where the Vumacam network has fallen in the "wrong hands"?

Quote me if you want to argue a point.
Vumacam uses some of the most insecure cameras available.

 

[genetic]

Quote me if you want to argue a point.
Vumacam uses some of the most insecure cameras available.

Quote you on what? I don't want to argue, all I'm asking is where has it fallen into the wrong hands? It's speculation at best. Tinfoil hat stuff.

The network has far greater benefits than it does disadvantages, and the results thus far have proven it.

 

[boboudts]

That slippery slope

The commie anc control freakes are bound to expropriate it once whitey has set it up!

 

[Vorastra]

This thing is serious man!!! Especially in Cape Town. I'm from Durban and we can throw a whole bin bag of trash on the road with fokol consequences! We were driving in CT and threw our stompies out the window! Weee wooh wee woh these foken cops pulled us over and gave us a R500 fine!!! WTF????

Imagine being this much of a POS.
How lazy are you.

Should've gotten a R5000 fine.

 

[genetic]

This thing is serious man!!! Especially in Cape Town. I'm from Durban and we can throw a whole bin bag of trash on the road with fokol consequences! We were driving in CT and threw our stompies out the window! Weee wooh wee woh these foken cops pulled us over and gave us a R500 fine!!! WTF????

Good. Cape Town isn't Dirtbin.

Don't come here and trash our clean city. Glad you got fined.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Quote you on what? I don't want to argue, all I'm asking is where has it fallen into the wrong hands? It's speculation at best. Tinfoil hat stuff.

The network has far greater benefits than it does disadvantages, and the results thus far have proven it.

Hacked Hikvision IP Camera Map USA And Europe

Now with Europe and the USA, Interactive map showing Hikvision hacked IP cameras.

ipvm.com

 

[genetic]

Hacked Hikvision IP Camera Map USA And Europe

Now with Europe and the USA, Interactive map showing Hikvision hacked IP cameras.

ipvm.com

What's that got to do with Vumacam? And even if the cameras were accessed by an unauthorised party, what are the going to do with the footage? It's public CCTV, and not private cameras in your house.

 

[Polymathic]

That slippery slope

How so?
The Cameras are recording public places and there's no expectation of privacy in public places.

 

[TheJman]

This is brilliant!! The number of claims that can now be properly assessed and those idiots who cause accidents and end up getting away with it can finally be punished!

 

[Willie Trombone]

What's that got to do with Vumacam? And even if the cameras were accessed by an unauthorised party, what are the going to do with the footage? It's public CCTV, and not private cameras in your house.

You misunderstand.
IP cameras and NVRs are effectively computers with operating systems that can be used to access other systems.

Besides, even Vumacam's CEO is a Croock.

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

The info you have about how AI is going to "identify potentially bad situations"

When I was still involved in the CPF and NHW stuff, we worked with the security companies and Vuma on a similar project in the Pinetown South Sector 3 area.

We had number plate recognition cams that could match the car to the reg plate and detect trends. The fail point, was of course getting the police to act. Our Sen Super at Metro usually got involved and we had a few stolen vehicles recovered,

The lollipop cams would record footage but finding a specific event was a challenge, and the resolution was shidt.

We realised that we had three challenges, the cam quality, the software and the the fact that cameras are stolen pretty quickly.

We also started playing with cameras sponsored by private security and Vuma that had some smart pattern software. It would recognize general traffic patterns - foot and vehicle - and send us a note where it found something to be a bit suspect. We coupled this up to ESRI ArcGIS to get hot spots.

Unfortunately, we received very little support from the community, the government and local business. I think I had put in about R10 000 out of my own pocket as did a small group of others. Private security were real champions, as were the folks from ESRI.

Where the cams did work well, was where we had access points into the area. The cam would pick up some movement over a key point and alert us.

 

[elvis_presley]

You misunderstand.
IP cameras and NVRs are effectively computers with operating systems that can be used to access other systems.

And quite easy to secure if you have a vaguely competent networking department. Most the Hikvision vulnerabilities seem to be from very outdated firmware, on public IPs and default settings (but then you can say that for SO much connected hardware); 3 things I'd expect to be secured by someone specializing in IP CCTV.