Vumatel stops rolling out fibre in KwaZulu-Natal - Report

Kalin Bogatzevski said:
I bet you are wrong with the years. As we started in 2015. :) But we do not have the financial back of Vuma. They took the millions. Didn't they?

Our prices? Check them on the website and then we discuss again :)
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2 and 5 are next to each other on numpad, my bad.
The prices are not the same.

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Just check your packages for home internet to see how much of a con man you are.
Advertise 75 Mbps National, international and upload as a total of 225Mbps. No that's 75Mbps.

It worse than what cybersmart did at the beginning with their 400 claim as at least they only did up and down and didn't try to add international into their numbers.

Why not make it 75 down and up and give them 2Tbps international. Not your fault that their local transit isn't enough to ever test it.

I hate marketing likes yours as it harms the industry.

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Johnatan56 said:
2 and 5 are next to each other on numpad, my bad.
The prices are not the same.

Edit:
Just check your packages for home internet to see how much of a con man you are.
Advertise 75 Mbps National, international and upload as a total of 225Mbps. No that's 75Mbps.

It worse than what cybersmart did at the beginning with their 400 claim as at least they only did up and down and didn't try to add international into their numbers.

Why not make it 75 down and up and give them 2Tbps international. Not your fault that their local transit isn't enough to ever test it.

I hate marketing likes yours as it harms the industry.

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Sorry for the very late reply.
I guess you didn't actually understand that 123NET offers a different bandwidth model. Totally different. It is well described on our website.
Good luck!
 
Kalin Bogatzevski said:
Sorry for the very late reply.
I guess you didn't actually understand that 123NET offers a different bandwidth model. Totally different. It is well described on our website.
Good luck!
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No, your advertising is BS, you cannot separate them like that and then take the aggregate. They'll get 5Mbps international on your "15Mbit" total package, so it's 5Mbps. They'll get 5Mbps total on your local, so it's 5Mbps. It doesn't suddenly become 10Mbps.

Your company is shady, already started with all the promises of roll-outs back in 2014/15 (I can't remember the dates anymore, been a long time and you guys kept playing the communities constantly).

Also Kalin, you want a 123Net company rep account, message rpm about it if you're going to post representing your company.
 
Johnatan56 said:
No, your advertising is BS, you cannot separate them like that and then take the aggregate. They'll get 5Mbps international on your "15Mbit" total package, so it's 5Mbps. They'll get 5Mbps total on your local, so it's 5Mbps. It doesn't suddenly become 10Mbps.

Your company is shady, already started with all the promises of roll-outs back in 2014/15 (I can't remember the dates anymore, been a long time and you guys kept playing the communities constantly).

Also Kalin, you want a 123Net company rep account, message rpm about it if you're going to post representing your company.
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Ok :) Cute.
Let's say you have 3 kinds of bread. You buy 1pc of each kind. How many breads do you have?
3 or 1?
Do you get me?
123NET does the following:
1 line consists of 3 separate bandwidth groups: local + national/peering + international.
Now, if a customer is on the 15 megabit based plan, he/she can watch a Netflix 4K, while streaming YouTube 4K and download torrents from International seeders.
All at the same time.
How much bandwidth is that?
15 or more?
Well, this is how 123NET is different. There is no other ISP on the SA market to offer this.
I am fine with your opinion. 15 Megabit. Cool. But it is not. :) Even cooler.
If you have a problem with our model, it is not my problem. It is yours.
You get 10, or 20, or 200 total. Be happy :)
Move on.
 
Kalin Bogatzevski said:
Ok :) Cute.
Let's say you have 3 kinds of bread. You buy 1pc of each kind. How many breads do you have?
3 or 1?
Do you get me?
123NET does the following:
1 line consists of 3 separate bandwidth groups: local + national/peering + international.
Now, if a customer is on the 15 megabit based plan, he/she can watch a Netflix 4K, while streaming YouTube 4K and download torrents from International seeders.
All at the same time.
How much bandwidth is that?
15 or more?
Well, this is how 123NET is different. There is no other ISP on the SA market to offer this.
I am fine with your opinion. 15 Megabit. Cool. But it is not. :) Even cooler.
If you have a problem with our model, it is not my problem. It is yours.
You get 10, or 20, or 200 total. Be happy :)
Move on.
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Fantastic public relations, gonna recommend this company. /s

And BTW did you register as a company rep like you were advised to?
 
Kalin Bogatzevski said:
Ok :) Cute.
Let's say you have 3 kinds of bread. You buy 1pc of each kind. How many breads do you have?
3 or 1?
Do you get me?
123NET does the following:
1 line consists of 3 separate bandwidth groups: local + national/peering + international.
Now, if a customer is on the 15 megabit based plan, he/she can watch a Netflix 4K, while streaming YouTube 4K and download torrents from International seeders.
All at the same time.
How much bandwidth is that?
15 or more?
Well, this is how 123NET is different. There is no other ISP on the SA market to offer this.
I am fine with your opinion. 15 Megabit. Cool. But it is not. :) Even cooler.
If you have a problem with our model, it is not my problem. It is yours.
You get 10, or 20, or 200 total. Be happy :)
Move on.
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WOW at best you can market it as 5+5+5 marketing it as 15 is dishonest.
 
Kalin Bogatzevski said:
Ok :) Cute.
Let's say you have 3 kinds of bread. You buy 1pc of each kind. How many breads do you have?
3 or 1?
Do you get me?
123NET does the following:
1 line consists of 3 separate bandwidth groups: local + national/peering + international.
Now, if a customer is on the 15 megabit based plan, he/she can watch a Netflix 4K, while streaming YouTube 4K and download torrents from International seeders.
All at the same time.
How much bandwidth is that?
15 or more?
Well, this is how 123NET is different. There is no other ISP on the SA market to offer this.
I am fine with your opinion. 15 Megabit. Cool. But it is not. :) Even cooler.
If you have a problem with our model, it is not my problem. It is yours.
You get 10, or 20, or 200 total. Be happy :)
Move on.
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Eating the third bread doesn't mean the first bread also gets eaten, your metaphor is fatally flawed.

And you are advertising it as 15Mbps, that's what the total bit says.

The industry norm is to advertise that as 5Mbps, you can state limit international to 5Mbps as well, but you cannot say total.

But that's expected of you, you've always been dishonest in your marketing and promises, I pity your customers, but you definitely only got people who have no clue if they stayed with you/signed up in the first place.
 
Johnatan56 said:
Eating the third bread doesn't mean the first bread also gets eaten, your metaphor is fatally flawed.

And you are advertising it as 15Mbps, that's what the total bit says.

The industry norm is to advertise that as 5Mbps, you can state limit international to 5Mbps as well, but you cannot say total.

But that's expected of you, you've always been dishonest in your marketing and promises, I pity your customers, but you definitely only got people who have no clue if they stayed with you/signed up in the first place.
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If you say so :)
 
Kalin Bogatzevski said:
I messaged you privately and said that I was registered as a company rep 5 years ago and I asked whether the haters did require to be registered as well :)
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Thanks for this, just checking with mods why you don't show as company rep.

Otherwise all good.
 
Kalin Bogatzevski said:
Ok :) Cute.
Let's say you have 3 kinds of bread. You buy 1pc of each kind. How many breads do you have?
3 or 1?
Do you get me?
123NET does the following:
1 line consists of 3 separate bandwidth groups: local + national/peering + international.
Now, if a customer is on the 15 megabit based plan, he/she can watch a Netflix 4K, while streaming YouTube 4K and download torrents from International seeders.
All at the same time.
How much bandwidth is that?
15 or more?
Well, this is how 123NET is different. There is no other ISP on the SA market to offer this.
I am fine with your opinion. 15 Megabit. Cool. But it is not. :) Even cooler.
If you have a problem with our model, it is not my problem. It is yours.
You get 10, or 20, or 200 total. Be happy :)
Move on.
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Netflix is local by the way, same as youtube, so good luck getting 4K netflix while watching youtube on a 5mb line. 0.000001% of people will use the line the way you want them to. How much time and energy do you spend defending/explaining this convoluted strategy? If I was your marketing strategist, I would have advised you on day one to drop this approach and keep things simple, like what your competition does.
 
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Kalin Bogatzevski said:
I messaged you privately and said that I was registered as a company rep 5 years ago and I asked whether the haters did require to be registered as well :)
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If you're going to act as a company rep here then you need to be registered as one here.
 
wingnut771 said:
Netflix is local by the way, same as youtube, so good luck getting 4K netflix while watching youtube on a 5mb line. 0.000001% of people will use the line the way you want them to.
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Netflix is local (onnet)
YouTube is national/peering.

Understand the difference.
 
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