Vumatel to launch 10Gbit/s home fibre in South Africa

Swa said:
Where is the 10Gbps from Vumatel?
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There is no commercial offering as yet from Vumatel, how is that relative to your statement:

"Have to appear relevant when you just hiked your prices 100%."

Who just hiked prices 100%?
 
PBCool said:
There is no commercial offering as yet from Vumatel, how is that relative to your statement:

"Have to appear relevant when you just hiked your prices 100%."

Who just hiked prices 100%?
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I think they referring to Vumatel trying to hide their price hikes, when this announcement was made everyone was dropping their prices (FNO's bot Openserve and Metro if i recall) and Vumatel was like *slap* take this increase but then they pulled the increase due to bad publicity and using some excuse that due to covid they were allowed to increase their price and that it was pushed out until a further date.

So they made this article etc to push that whole story under the rug... Basically how i felt at the time and many others i know felt the same way...
 
CrypticZA said:
I think they referring to Vumatel trying to hide their price hikes, when this announcement was made everyone was dropping their prices (FNO's bot Openserve and Metro if i recall) and Vumatel was like *slap* take this increase but then they pulled the increase due to bad publicity and using some excuse that due to covid they were allowed to increase their price and that it was pushed out until a further date.

So they made this article etc to push that whole story under the rug... Basically how i felt at the time and many others i know felt the same way...
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Kinda unrelative to make a statement now if they haven't increased prices no?
 
CrypticZA said:
I think they referring to Vumatel trying to hide their price hikes, when this announcement was made everyone was dropping their prices (FNO's bot Openserve and Metro if i recall) and Vumatel was like *slap* take this increase but then they pulled the increase due to bad publicity and using some excuse that due to covid they were allowed to increase their price and that it was pushed out until a further date.

So they made this article etc to push that whole story under the rug... Basically how i felt at the time and many others i know felt the same way...
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Vumatel dug themselves into a hole with their Vumareach products, they didn't anticipate Openserve lowering their prices as much as they did.

Vumareach was supposed to be for "lower income" areas though their definition of "lower income" seems dubious. Initially a lower cost build to provide these areas with a 20mb service but costumer demand made them introduce a 40mb service and now they are either going to launch a 80mb or 100mb line next year.

Most probably it will cost between R600 and R750 for the the 100mb. If memory serves me right that's within the range of the cheapest options for regular Vumatel fibre.

The problem Vumatel is having is that their core customers want cheaper fibre and their Reach customers want faster speeds.

You would say the logical thing to do is can Vumareach and just lower price of Vumatel services to be in line with Vumareach but they can't do that because Vumareach has much higher contention than regular Vumatel, if they are going to do that if means upgrading the infrastructure of several Vumareach areas and I don't think that will be cheap.
 
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Polymathic said:
Vumatel dug themselves into a hole with their Vumareach products, they didn't anticipate Openserve lowering their prices as much as they did.

Vumareach was supposed to be for "lower income" areas though their definition of "lower income" seems dubious. Initially a lower cost build to provide these areas with a 20mb service but costumer demand made them introduce a 40mb service and now they are either going to launch a 80mb or 100mb line next year.

Most probably it will cost between R600 and R750 for the the 100mb. If memory serves me right that's within the range of the cheapest options for regular Vumatel fibre.

The problem Vumatel is having is that their core customers want cheaper fibre and their Reach customers want faster speeds.

You would say the logical thing to do is can Vumareach and just lower price of Vumatel services to be in line with Vumareach but they can't do that because Vumareach has much higher contention than regular Vumatel, if they are going to do that if means upgrading the infrastructure of several Vumareach areas and I don't think that will be cheap.
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Whilst they can milk it they will, which will be a while.
 
Aghori said:
Multiple 8k video streams and remote monitoring. I could use that for my line of work.
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It's no longer '98 single user single devices / people still trying to reason use case for faster and bigger connections. We've been down this road since switching over from 56k to dsl, dsl to fiber, switching to 100mbs,100mbs to 1gbs and now 1gbs to 10gb.
 
Herr der Verboten said:
It's no longer '98 single user single devices / people still trying to reason use case for faster and bigger connections. We've been down this road since switching over from 56k to dsl, dsl to fiber, switching to 100mbs,100mbs to 1gbs and now 1gbs to 10gb.
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The problem though is cost, peering, cable diversity etc. They can sell you 1Tbps but if they can't guarantee some reasonable internet breakout speeds, have decent peering, have multiple submarine cables etc then what's the point. Rather get a FTTB connection then?
 
/rewinds

DrJohnZoidberg said:
Every time there is new high tier product released into the consumer space there are always people who bring up the "nobody needs this" argument.

Guess what, there were people who said that about 2Mbps lines once. Things progress, it's the natural order of things and if didn't happen then we'd still happily be watching MacGyver on our CRTs and hitting the BBS with our 56K modems.

Nobody needs 4K TVs.
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SpiderGear said:
@PBCool Hows the 10Gbps at home doing?
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Haven't really been using it. The router I use to test the 10G is a CCR1036 which makes a racket in my one room.

I wanted to do some tests this weekend but I've misplaced my sfp+ to 10G RJ45.

I think I have another one at the office, will try post some results soon.
 
PBCool said:
Haven't really been using it. The router I use to test the 10G is a CCR1036 which makes a racket in my one room.

I wanted to do some tests this weekend but I've misplaced my sfp+ to 10G RJ45.

I think I have another one at the office, will try post some results soon.
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If you don't mind, could you share how this works?
Like, do you have your own dedicated port on an xgpon olt or something?
 
tm458 said:
If you don't mind, could you share how this works?
Like, do you have your own dedicated port on an xgpon olt or something?
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Vumatel trenched is active ethernet, so they would just patch me into an uplink port on one of the Huawei switches at the pop.
 
tm458 said:
If you don't mind, could you share how this works?
Like, do you have your own dedicated port on an xgpon olt or something?
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although XGpon and XGSpon are 10Gbit speeds, throughput is less than 9Gb/s due to overhead etc, it was designed so service providers could provide multiple 1Gb/s services of a single port.
 
PBCool said:
It's gone quiet from Vumatels side, a 2.5Gbps service would be more realistic I think.
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If they were to add a 2.5Gbps tier, they might as well do a 5Gbps one as the top end....never unnecessarily leave money on the table. I'm sure there'd be customers that would pay R2-3k for bragging rights.

Google Fiber knows how that goes, 20Gbps as a marquee flagship headline grabbing offer that they know only a few customers would actually pay for, like a gold iPhone.
 
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