Vuvuzela is ruining the world cup

[LancelotSA]

Nope, quite recent, actually !

Funny how when it suits people a period of time elapsed is an extremely long time (eg time elapsed since the end of apartheid) but on other occasions it is nothing at all (eg mainstream, full scale vuvuzela use at local soccer games)

 

[SpellJammer]

Nope, quite recent, actually !

Oh okay. Been to any footie matches in the 90's? Yeah, thought not....

 

[Jola]

Oh okay. Been to any footie matches in the 90's? Yeah, thought not....

I asked for a audio clip from one of those games in, say 2005, 2000, and 1995. Nothing so far !

And you can't remember, so until you provide the clips its BS ! Preferably with video, so that one can check the authenticity !

 

[Nerfherder]

As said earlier, if you are looking for a peaceful ambiance stick to rugby. This has always been a part of our local game. Football fans do not dictate terms to rugby supporters so I really dont know why you should attempt to do this to footie fans. I cannot tell you how ****ing terrible and monotonous the ole ole ole chants are but you are entitled to them as supporters of your sport. Besides, the world is starting to adopt it. Stop being a sour puss and join the fun.

Stop saying that, even the wiki article says that the Vuvu is a recent thing.
Besides it seems that the vuvu is infecting rugby as well, remember sport is about sportsmanship, make sure that everyone can enjoy it.

 

[Nerfherder]

I asked for a audio clip from one of those games in, say 2005, 2000, and 1995. Nothing so far !

And you can't remember, so until you provide the clips its BS ! Preferably with video, so that one can check the authenticity !

I totally agree... if it had been as prevalent that way back then people would have commented on it, this is not the first time that we have hosted international soccer.

 

[Jola]

Besides it seems that the vuvu is infecting rugby as well, remember sport is about sportsmanship, make sure that everyone can enjoy it.

No, it's not - it's banned from all rugby stadiums.

It was used at the super14 finals because that was in a soccer stadium.

 

[Nerfherder]

Yes, I hoped so. I saw that Newlands was wonderful. The cheers of the crowd, no beehive whatsoever.

A lot of people complained that there were vuvu's at the S14 final.

 

[SpellJammer]

Stop saying that, even the wiki article says that the Vuvu is a recent thing.
Besides it seems that the vuvu is infecting rugby as well, remember sport is about sportsmanship, make sure that everyone can enjoy it.

Might you show me where wikipedia states this??

 

[SpellJammer]

I totally agree... if it had been as prevalent that way back then people would have commented on it, this is not the first time that we have hosted international soccer.

2005, consider yourself owned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJe8Gt2ngeY

 

[sincerious]

btw, does anyone know if the hyundai vuvuzela on the highway in town was ever honked when bafana scored their goal? i didn't hear it or notice any of the commentators saying anything about it

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you two seem to know everything, please answer my question. alternatively find the answer and post it here.
i'll check your replies upon my return from the warm, luxurious bubble bath that presently awaits me, thanks.

 

[KulRath]

Wow, this thread still going? I'm surprised

 

[SpellJammer]

I asked for a audio clip from one of those games in, say 2005, 2000, and 1995. Nothing so far !

And you can't remember, so until you provide the clips its BS ! Preferably with video, so that one can check the authenticity !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJe8Gt2ngeY

No need to apologise. We all know many of you guys dont actually have a fly ****ing clue as to what you are talking about. Trying to find earlier footage for you. Watch this space...

 

[Zenbaas]

2005, consider yourself owned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJe8Gt2ngeY

Funny how you can completely hear the crowd cheering etc in that clip

 

[Jola]

2005, consider yourself owned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJe8Gt2ngeY

I don't have sound here, will check later. BTW 2005 is very recent, now we need to go back.

I would have been very surprised if you did not hear them in a 2005 video.

But I want to hear the audio from a derby in 1995 and 2000.

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

This has always been a part of our local game. Football fans do not dictate terms to rugby supporters so I really dont know why you should attempt to do this to footie fans. I cannot tell you how ****ing terrible and monotonous the ole ole ole chants are but you are entitled to them as supporters of your sport. Besides, the world is starting to adopt it. Stop being a sour puss and join the fun.

They don't need to dictate to Rugby fans because the Rugby fans are doing nothing wrong to dictate about. The OLE chant doesn't last 90 minutes so you argument there has no merit. I am not really a Rugby fan, only the last season did I watch a lot of it and try support the Sharks.

 

[SpellJammer]

Funny how you can completely hear the crowd cheering etc in that clip

Ummm, they do that now as well. You can choose to ignore the vuvu's blaring in the background of a sparsely supported match and compare it to a capacity crowd international of you choose, it still wont change a thing however. They are clearly audible...

I find it farking hilarious that Jola is not happy with 2005 footage when he initially claimed that no such footage exists Excuse the pun but talk about shifting the goalposts....

 

[nivek]

Masincedane Sport said it came up with the vuvuzela itself. Neil van Schalkwyk, 36, its founder, said he is a football fan and used to play semi-professionally. "I saw a tin version of the product at the stadiums," he recalled. "With my background in plastics, I spoke to my then manager about us developing a plastic version in about 1999. The first samples were made in 2001 and we started getting the product out into the market then."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/dec/22/vuvuzela-ownership-row

So roughly '99 with the first mass produced plastic version being blown in 2001

 

[SpellJammer]

They don't need to dictate to Rugby fans because the Rugby fans are doing nothing wrong to dictate about. The OLE chant doesn't last 90 minutes so you argument there has no merit. I am not really a Rugby fan, only the last season did I watch a lot of it and try support the Sharks.

Actually my argument has merit. Who are Rugby supporters who have never supported the local game to dictate to football fans in the greater scheme of things? You may see nothing wrong with the ole chant, I do, I mean just how brainless can one be to have the same chant every season, including when we were not world champs. Thats like the only chant they know other than amping up the ante during Die Stem part of our anthem then muting up on the rest of the anthem.

 

[LancelotSA]

With a background in toolmaking, the 37-year-old football fan watched people taking home-made tin horns to games in the 1990s and decided to try producing his own in plastic.

Van Schalkwyk initially named his horn the boogie-blaster, but fans dubbed it the vuvuzela -- which means 'pump' or 'lift up' -- and the fad was born. Today, the vuvuzela industry is worth 50 million rand ($6.45 million) in South Africa and Europe, he estimates. He declined to say how much he had made from his invention.

"The vuvuzela is a symbol of the way we can celebrate and how we would like the rest of the world to enjoy their celebrations as well."

The fact it has been much copied does not irk him, he says. "We were never under the illusion we'd have a monopoly on the product and we couldn't patent the design. When we started out we were told a horn is a horn and it has been around for centuries!"

Horns have always played a part in South African culture, from the earliest kudu horns, traditionally used to announce a ceremony or a major event.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/74871/vuvuzelas-legacy-could-cut-lips.html

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

How many negatives are there to the vuvuzela? (all because of the manner in which they are used not the actual use of them)

1. Drowns out the other supporters and atmosphere of the game.
2. Is extremely noisy and taken to an extreme is disrespectful and arrogant. Blowing your own horn for all to hear so to speak.
3. Has been mentioned to distract the players and officials and have a negative impact on the game.
4. Makes TV viewing of the WC quite distasteful.
5. Shows no pride and support for a specific team when used constantly and aimlessly and is therefore pointless.
6. Disrespecful to others in the crowd who may not like it.

Positives?
1. Gives a good vibe.

Now what? hey? And just before you go on about other countries and their mannerism I would say to you the same would apply so stop being such a blame finger. Might I reiterate once again, THE MANNER IN WHICH IT IS USED NOT THE ACTUAL USE OF THEM