Vuvuzela is ruining the world cup

[LancelotSA]

Someone was arguing with me about the use of the term musical instrument by Sepp Blatter? You can now argue with Trevor Cox too.

The England Supporters' Band promised it would play on for the England game against Algeria.

But band trumpeter John Hemmingham also backed the vuvuzela. He said: "It's the way the South Africans express their joy at the tournament being here." In musical terms the vuvuzela is tuned at the B flat below middle C, says Trevor Cox, of the Institute of Acoustics.

And some more European sales figures quoted here :

The company says it has had sold 1.5 million vuvuzelas in Europe since October and expects the tournament will generate sales of up to 20 million rand (around two million euros).

http://sports.xin.msn.com/world-cup-2010/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4148202

 

[nivek]

Parents should take responsibility and beat their kids whenever they ask for a vuvuzela, instead of buying them 1

 

[Jola]

Masincedane Sport said it came up with the vuvuzela itself. Neil van Schalkwyk, 36, its founder, said he is a football fan and used to play semi-professionally. "I saw a tin version of the product at the stadiums," he recalled. "With my background in plastics, I spoke to my then manager about us developing a plastic version in about 1999. The first samples were made in 2001 and we started getting the product out into the market then."

Sounds about right ! As I said, very recent. "Started" getting onto the market in 2001 !

 

[Jola]

Someone was arguing with me about the use of the term musical instrument by Sepp Blatter? You can now argue with Trevor Cox too.

Please show us where he says that it's a musical instrument !

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

Some more negatives to the vuvuzela:

7. Give no chance for any African supporters to sing their own chants of praise and honour for their team. (flip I thought the locals here could harmonize so well with the best of them and I was actually looking forward to hearing something like that in a match - guess not :/)
8. Shows absolutely no pride or spirit whatsoever in anything if used aimlessly which is the case here.

 

[Nerfherder]

2001 !

Some people like to think that Shaka Zulu was blowing the thing...

 

[SpellJammer]

How many negatives are there to the vuvuzela? (all because of the manner in which they are used not the actual use of them)

1. Drowns out the other supporters and atmosphere of the game.
2. Is extremely noisy and taken to an extreme is disrespectful and arrogant. Blowing your own horn for all to hear so to speak.
3. Has been mentioned to distract the players and officials and have a negative impact on the game.
4. Makes TV viewing of the WC quite distasteful.
5. Shows no pride and support for a specific team when used constantly and aimlessly and is therefore pointless.
6. Disrespecful to others in the crowd who may not like it.

Positives?
1. Gives a good vibe.

Now what? hey? And just before you go on about other countries and their mannerism I would say to you the same would apply so stop being such a blame finger. Might I reiterate once again, THE MANNER IN WHICH IT IS USED NOT THE ACTUAL USE OF THEM

Aaah sheez dude, you really need to lighten the **** up. Seriously! Attend a game. I promise you, actually witness the vibe that this thing creates. People chant and dance in unison to the blowing. Check it out. Point 1,2 and 4 would be non sequitur if the broadcasters used common sense. Point 6 is a joke. Why the **** would you go to a local footie match if you dont want to be subjected to noise???

 

[SpellJammer]

2001 !

Some people like to think that Shaka Zulu was blowing the thing...

You appear to be a terribly selective reader....

 

[LancelotSA]

Sounds about right ! As I said, very recent. "Started" getting onto the market in 2001 !

Ah, typical of you to overlook the part where he states that home made tin ones were used at games for years before.... and the part where kudu horns were used for ages before!

So in your eyes something can only be regarded as cultural when it is mass produced?

 

[KulRath]

Guys, let the uhm.. 3 or 4? supporters of the vuvuzela on this forum be; they will carry on and on and on anyway. If they get banned, AWESOME, if not we will just have to deal with the rest of the world's opinion of us and our failed hosting (in many, many soccer fans opinion) of the WC afterwards...

 

[SpellJammer]

With a background in toolmaking, the 37-year-old football fan watched people taking home-made tin horns to games in the 1990s and decided to try producing his own in plastic.

Van Schalkwyk initially named his horn the boogie-blaster, but fans dubbed it the vuvuzela -- which means 'pump' or 'lift up' -- and the fad was born. Today, the vuvuzela industry is worth 50 million rand ($6.45 million) in South Africa and Europe, he estimates. He declined to say how much he had made from his invention.

"The vuvuzela is a symbol of the way we can celebrate and how we would like the rest of the world to enjoy their celebrations as well."

The fact it has been much copied does not irk him, he says. "We were never under the illusion we'd have a monopoly on the product and we couldn't patent the design. When we started out we were told a horn is a horn and it has been around for centuries!"

Horns have always played a part in South African culture, from the earliest kudu horns, traditionally used to announce a ceremony or a major event.

Just thought I would repost that for the denialists....

 

[SpellJammer]

Guys, let the uhm.. 3 or 4? supporters of the vuvuzela on this forum be; they will carry on and on and on anyway. If they get banned, AWESOME, if not we will just have to deal with the rest of the world's opinion of us and our failed hosting (in many, many soccer fans opinion) of the WC afterwards...

Oh dear, yet another selective reader. Is that why 1.5 million have been exported to Europe already

 

[LancelotSA]

Please show us where he says that it's a musical instrument !

Jola, come, take up the challenge. In fact another one was given earlier which you chose to ignore. Meet up with me. Bring your babysitter if need be but let's have an adult conversation.

 

[d0b33]

I watched.. I think on Aljazeera a South African tribe claim to be the original users of the vuvuzela type horn and are pissed off that it's not being used properly and in tune at the games like they use if for their ceremonies.

 

[Jola]

How many negatives are there to the vuvuzela? (all because of the manner in which they are used not the actual use of them)

1. Drowns out the other supporters and atmosphere of the game.
2. Is extremely noisy and taken to an extreme is disrespectful and arrogant. Blowing your own horn for all to hear so to speak.
3. Has been mentioned to distract the players and officials and have a negative impact on the game.
4. Makes TV viewing of the WC quite distasteful.
5. Shows no pride and support for a specific team when used constantly and aimlessly and is therefore pointless.
6. Disrespecful to others in the crowd who may not like it.
7. Spreads diseases like Swine Flu and Multi-Drug Resistant Tuberculosis.
8. Causes hearing damage at 127dB, much, much louder than a Boeing 747-200 taking off over your head (103dB).

Positives?
1. Gives a good vibe.

fixed

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

Actually my argument has merit. Who are Rugby supporters who have never supported the local game to dictate to football fans in the greater scheme of things? You may see nothing wrong with the ole chant, I do, I mean just how brainless can one be to have the same chant every season, including when we were not world champs. Thats like the only chant they know other than amping up the ante during Die Stem part of our anthem then muting up on the rest of the anthem.

True true, but you can't tell me it's as brainless as a 90 minute vuvuzela sound.

 

[Jola]

I watched.. I think on Aljazeera a South African tribe claim to be the original users of the vuvuzela type horn and are pissed off that it's not being used properly and in tune at the games like they use if for their ceremonies.

They have a hope !

I'm sure that the Neanderthals used it to chase Woolly Mammoths over cliffs.

After all, it's the most basic noise-making device that you can come up with !

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

fixed

Yes I forgot about those thanks

 

[KulRath]

Check my Sig... 185k and counting

 

[Jola]

Jola, come, take up the challenge. In fact another one was given earlier which you chose to ignore. Meet up with me. Bring your babysitter if need be but let's have an adult conversation.

You are not capable of having an adult conversation !