VW Polo or Toyota Yaris

[myopinion]

Hi Everyone

I've done my research: read reviews, looked at Kinsey report,Topcar, Carmag etc etc....which included reading what THIS forum has to say on vehicles.

I took Polo Vivo for a test drive and although there was not a problem, I wanted something more, I guess I expected more. I am considering buying the Polo sedan (big family) but like the Toyota Yaris alot.

I know there are big Ford, Kia, Hyundai, Opel etc fans on this forum but I would like opinions on this option.

I looked at fuel consumption, services, safety features ....I read, read and read and then read some more.

I think I have kinda made up my mind but still .... I do not want to regret my purchase a few months down the line.

What is your take on this?

BTW: I just joined mybroadband, so this is a whole new ballgame for me.

 

[agentrfr]

I'm bias, but I love my 4door hot hatch Yaris. You put your foot down and it goes. It's also really comfortable to drive (awsome suspension, awsome gearbox), and almost unbelievably fuel efficient. Safety wise, what I like most about it are the brakes on that thing. It will stop dead on a dime.

I think it also looks less boring than the polo

 

[supersunbird]

Well, I have exposure to a Polo Vivo hatch (my mothers) and now to a Ford Figo (mine).

The visibility out of the Figo is light years ahead of the Vivo (blindspots, reversing and such). Drivability is similar but the Figos steering is more direct and engaging, Vivo is "soft". Vivo is smaller inside but the boot space (in the hatch) is bigger, Figo has lots of space for front and rear passengers (all my rear passengers have commented on it and I am 1.96 tall) but smaller boot space.

Have never been in a Yaris.

 

[Segg]

I drive my 1.4 polo vivo and love it! It's reliable and easy to drive, not to mention I only fill up every 3 to 4 weeks, it's an all round solid vehicle, I will admit its quite boring compared to the others in its class, but is an excellent vehicle none the less

 

[myopinion]

Are diesel cars more expensive to service?

 

[supersunbird]

Are diesel cars more expensive to service?

Over all they need to be service more frequently (Figo Diesel 15 000km, Figo Petrol 20 000km), when the injectors go or the turbo (most likely after many kms if car is looked at properly) its expensive to repair, The purchase price is more, so one has to work out the amount of kilos you have to drive vs the petrol before you start making a saving.

I heard someone on here say "buy a diesel because you like something about the engines character, not for fuel savings".

 

[Brawler]

I drive my 1.4 polo vivo and love it! It's reliable and easy to drive, not to mention I only fill up every 3 to 4 weeks, it's an all round solid vehicle, I will admit its quite boring compared to the others in its class, but is an excellent vehicle none the less

Well a car that is just a few years old should be reliable... And saying that you fill up once every few weeks is not a very good indicator of fuel efficiency. You could drive 2KM per day.

Back to OP: Are you talking about a new Yaris? Its quite a lot better than the old one and that was was pretty good too. Polo Vivo is a citi golf - avoid. So out of those two I would choose the Yaris (new shape) but be warned that it has a very small boot.

If it was my money I'd get the Rio.

 

[KOPITE]

Both those cars are not worth it. Go ford/rio/huyndia

 

[Centronix]

confused yet? hehehe.

I haven't driven either car but I bought my wife a figo and it's a lovely car. Not the fastest but it's an awesome little car with big enough boot space.

 

[DJ...]

I once found myself in a Yaris. Was horrendous. I'll never put myself through that again...

 

[myopinion]

Correction: I probably should have stated it better.: I test drove a VW POLO Vivo-model but I like the VW POLO-model more. They are not the same vehicle.

When we first decided to buy a new car my husband suggested VW and said we should look at a diesel car. So I started my homework. Believe me I compared and Googled! I looked at Ford, Renault, GWM, Toyota...you name it.

I think we all have our favorite manufacturer. I have heard customers complaining over the whole manufacturing spectrum.

Anyway, after all my searching the VW POLO Sedan 1.6 TDI seems to suit our requirements best. It is not the prettiest, but that is not a big issue.

I could bore you with everything I looked into from boot-size to ground-clearance to torque to being able to disable the passenger airbag to seat covers, but that will take a few posts.

Thanks for all the input.

 

[supersunbird]

Oh, the prober new Polo. Actually quite good looking.

Working on the diesel VS petrol calculations now. Brb.

 

[myopinion]

Correction: I probably should have stated it better.: I test drove a VW POLO Vivo-model but I like the VW POLO-model more. They are not the same vehicle.

When we first decided to buy a new car my husband suggested VW and said we should look at a diesel car. So I started my homework. Believe me I compared and Googled! I looked at Ford, Renault, GWM, Toyota...you name it.

I think we all have our favorite manufacturer. I have heard customers complaining over the whole manufacturing spectrum.

Anyway, after all my searching the VW POLO Sedan 1.6 TDI seems to suit our requirements best. It is not the prettiest, but that is not a big issue.

I could bore you with everything I looked into from boot-size to ground-clearance to torque to being able to disable the passenger airbag to seat covers, but that will take a few posts.

Thanks for all the input.

 

[supersunbird]

You double posted, as I said new Polo is very nice looking.

So I did calculations for Diesel VS Petrol at R13 per litre for both and here is the results:

- 1.6TDI Comfortline R235 000 - 4.2/100km = R54.6/100km = 0.54c/km

- 1.4 Comfortline R190 000 - 6.1l/100km = R79.3/100km = 0.79c/km = R0.25/km difference = have to drive 180 000km for 1.6TDI to start paying for itself (12 years if you drive 15 000km a year)


- 1.6 Comfortline R210 000- 6.4/100km = R83.2/100km = 0.83c/km = R0.29/km difference =have to drive 86 200km for 1.6TDI to start paying for itself (5.7 years if you drive 15 000km a year)

- 1.2TDI Bluemotion - 3.4/100km = R44.6/100km = 0.44c/km = -R0.10 difference = 1.6TDI will never pay for itself

These costs exclude the more frequent services Diesels will require and the additional financing interest charges for the extra amount borrowed for the diesel.

So what is the reason for considering the 1.6TDI? Unless you do many kms a year (45 000km at minimum) I don't see the benefit over Petrol or Bluemotion.

 

[diabolus]

Sorry i am confused, yaris and polo vivo is not in the same segment? Isnt the yaris competing with the new polo ?

The vivo competes with the toyota etios.

So i already see a price descrepancy here, vivo should be significantly cheaper? Anyway, i am biased, i got a vivo 1.6, love it, in the price bracket (130k - 160k) there really was not much to compete. Isnt the yaris like 180k - 200k+ ?? In that segment things like ford fiesta, kia rio , renault clio (the new one) is showing up?

Edit: sorry misread somewhere, cant comment too much on the new polo, id probably go for fiesta in that price bracket, despite enjoying my vivo. I do however like the new polo looks, much better than vivo.

 

[Brawler]

You double posted, as I said new Polo is very nice looking.

So I did calculations for Diesel VS Petrol at R13 per litre for both and here is the results:

- 1.6TDI Comfortline R235 000 - 4.2/100km = R54.6/100km = 0.54c/km

- 1.4 Comfortline R190 000 - 6.1l/100km = R79.3/100km = 0.79c/km = R0.25/km difference = have to drive 180 000km for 1.6TDI to start paying for itself (12 years if you drive 15 000km a year)


- 1.6 Comfortline R210 000- 6.4/100km = R83.2/100km = 0.83c/km = R0.29/km difference =have to drive 86 200km for 1.6TDI to start paying for itself (5.7 years if you drive 15 000km a year)

- 1.2TDI Bluemotion - 3.4/100km = R44.6/100km = 0.44c/km = -R0.10 difference = 1.6TDI will never pay for itself

These costs exclude the more frequent services Diesels will require and the additional financing interest charges for the extra amount borrowed for the diesel.

So what is the reason for considering the 1.6TDI? Unless you do many kms a year (45 000km at minimum) I don't see the benefit over Petrol or Bluemotion.

Nice post. The TDI also has Injectors and a Turbo to worry about which do fk out at some point. NA Petrols are just more reliable, period. Diesels can be more fun to drive though and that's the only reason I'd consider a Polo TDI.

 

[Brenden_E]

You double posted, as I said new Polo is very nice looking.

So I did calculations for Diesel VS Petrol at R13 per litre for both and here is the results:

- 1.6TDI Comfortline R235 000 - 4.2/100km = R54.6/100km = 0.54c/km

- 1.4 Comfortline R190 000 - 6.1l/100km = R79.3/100km = 0.79c/km = R0.25/km difference = have to drive 180 000km for 1.6TDI to start paying for itself (12 years if you drive 15 000km a year)


- 1.6 Comfortline R210 000- 6.4/100km = R83.2/100km = 0.83c/km = R0.29/km difference =have to drive 86 200km for 1.6TDI to start paying for itself (5.7 years if you drive 15 000km a year)

- 1.2TDI Bluemotion - 3.4/100km = R44.6/100km = 0.44c/km = -R0.10 difference = 1.6TDI will never pay for itself

These costs exclude the more frequent services Diesels will require and the additional financing interest charges for the extra amount borrowed for the diesel.

So what is the reason for considering the 1.6TDI? Unless you do many kms a year (45 000km at minimum) I don't see the benefit over Petrol or Bluemotion.

Awesome post, but you assume that the petrol/diesel price will remain constant. Looking at the current trend, I think in 2 years we'll be well on the way to R20/l.

 

[supersunbird]

Awesome post, but you assume that the petrol/diesel price will remain constant. Looking at the current trend, I think in 2 years we'll be well on the way to R20/l.

One just does the sums then on the then current costs (my crystal ball is properly broken, uneconomical to repair ), diesel will most likely remain at around the same price as petrol (or even be a bit more expensive).

 

[myopinion]

Boy oh boy. I am furious!

Received my Polo back from 30 000km service and while driving home the vehicle had a kind of vibration about 10 km into my journey. It stopped and I thought it was not a problem(me STUPID). Traveled again few days later and had same shaking after stepped on brakes after overtaking a vehicle. Went to Volkswagen. They said brakes combined. They fixed it(according to them). Next day undertook 400km journey. Vehicle still had vibration. Took it back to VW. They said I had to leave it for a day. They phoned me and said cost would be R6k to replaced brake drums. I refused saying they have to pay. I did nothing wrong. I queried with VW customer servive. Dealership went ahead and had brakes skimmed....without consulting me and is charging me now R200.

Why then charge me first time R6000? Are they allowed to skim brakes on a new vehicle?

During the service they "adjusted rear brakes". Could they have done something that could cause the vehicle's brakes to combine?

Thanks.

 

[Aghori]

I once found myself in a Yaris. Was horrendous. I'll never put myself through that again...

Aye.

Get yourself a good used Honda Jazz.