VW Up lands in SA, we have prices - IOL Motoring

[Rouxenator]

Good grief, I drove a Honda Brio and i can tell you it is utter crap.

Looks like it too from behind.

 

[Paul_S]

Small and under powered.

Meh.

929 kg + 95Nm + 1500 meters altitude (Highveld) + hills = not sure if they'll even be okay for city driving.
Can you imagine putting four people into this and trying to climb a hill on the N1 at 100km/h?

 

[grim]

929 kg + 95Nm + 5100 meters altitude (Highveld) + hills = not sure if they'll even be okay for city driving.
Can you imagine putting four people into this and trying to climb a hill on the N1 at 100km/h?

5100m? Pretty sure you meant feet, we're at 1300-1500m

Pity there's no turbo engine in the line up, should be quite nippy down at the coast though.

 

[joeyhza]

5100 meters altitude (Highveld)!!!!!!

That cant possible be right, not even close

more like 1700m at the upper limit

 

[Paul_S]

5100m? Pretty sure you meant feet, we're at 1300-1500m

Pity there's no turbo engine in the line up, should be quite nippy down at the coast though.

Ish! 1500 meters.
Fixed post.

 

[joeyhza]

 

[HapticSimian]

929 kg + 95Nm + 1500 meters altitude (Highveld) + hills = not sure if they'll even be okay for city driving.
Can you imagine putting four people into this and trying to climb a hill on the N1 at 100km/h?

It's actually not horrible, keeping in mind that these cars will likely spend the majority of their lives 1 or 2 up and below 100km/h.

Makes the Brio feel like the tinny lunchbox it is though.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

It's actually not horrible, keeping in mind that these cars will likely spend the majority of their lives 1 or 2 up and below 100km/h.

Makes the Brio feel like the tinny lunchbox it is though.

the datsun go is a lunchbox on wheels, the etios is really stupid,

what else, i10, picanto, geely,

the brio is the one car that seems the best manufactured,not badge engineered, not sharing any components with any other car;
got proper safety features, even on the base trend model, totally clean sheet design ground up new, no recalls on it.

one of these days Ill drive one and then make a even better case for it, or somebody here who actually owns one can comment,

but I always say this; unless there's really something horribly wrong with it; I STILL dont see why not......
(unless as you select 2nd gear and it explodes)

 

[ToxicBunny]

the datsun go is a lunchbox on wheels, the etios is really stupid,

what else, i10, picanto, geely,

the brio is the one car that seems the best manufactured,not badge engineered, not sharing any components with any other car;
got proper safety features, even on the base trend model, totally clean sheet design ground up new, no recalls on it.

one of these days Ill drive one and then make a even better case for it, or somebody here who actually owns one can comment,

but I always say this; unless there's really something horribly wrong with it; I STILL dont see why not......
(unless as you select 2nd gear and it explodes)

Trust me, the brio is not the best.. its a monumental POS.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

Trust me, the brio is not the best.. its a monumental POS.

wheres that other poster that actually BROUGHT this POS as you claim, lets see if its rusted through, fallen apart like a lancia,
or broken down 300m after the garage, or the gear lever has detached from the console and able to wave it at passing traffic........

look at it this way; when security companies and panel beating shops need a courtesy car , what car do they buy?

some go with etios, some with sandero, many with vivos, but a few ive seen got brios,
got to tell you something; its always a good sign when a major customer buys a specific make of car,
shows its reliable and cheap, and enough of them to create an aftermarket;

technically then the best car is SA is a vivo, because there so many of them;
or the corolla/auris, as its the most brought car locally.

 

[ToxicBunny]

I drove one.. I would never ever ever put my money down to buy one... the test drive was enough for me to know that its a crap car.

Yes it may be put together well, and it may not break down or any of those things, but its a monumentally crap drive.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

I drove one.. I would never ever ever put my money down to buy one... the test drive was enough for me to know that its a crap car.

Yes it may be put together well, and it may not break down or any of those things, but its a monumentally crap drive.

Ok,so you did actually drive one, fair enough, what did you buy eventually then? or I should maybe ask what did you come from;

Ill admit If I came from a BMW 5 series into a brio, I admit id be pretty disappointed too; but Im coming from a kia picanto with a boxsburg exhaust and no AC or P/S.
for me at least looking at all the cars for under 130K this seems the best of all of them; you get everything you could ever want or need, and you have a honda;

the most reliable and trouble free of all the major brands; you still see ballades with 500000 KM's still driving around,

where is kingmigel..... he actually brought (sedan) of these cars; maybe he can settle this for us.......

 

[HapticSimian]

People who have bought a product aren't always the best source of objective information, as they might be invested in defending their purchase. I drove the Brio extensively, and I've driven the Up. The latter is altogether in a different league.

Companies buy cars because they promise to be economical to run, which the Brio might well be. That does nothing to change the fact that behind a Brio's wheel is objectively not a nice place to be.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Ok,so you did actually drive one, fair enough, what did you buy eventually then? or I should maybe ask what did you come from;

Ill admit If I came from a BMW 5 series into a brio, I admit id be pretty disappointed too; but Im coming from a kia picanto with a boxsburg exhaust and no AC or P/S.
for me at least looking at all the cars for under 130K this seems the best of all of them; you get everything you could ever want or need, and you have a honda;

the most reliable and trouble free of all the major brands; you still see ballades with 500000 KM's still driving around,

where is kingmigel..... he actually brought (sedan) of these cars; maybe he can settle this for us.......

I didn't end up buying anything...

Trust me, the Picanto is a better drive than the Brio. I arrived in a 13 yr old double cab, drove the Brio, was disappointed... drove a 1 yr old Picanto and it was night and day, the Picanto was nippy, responsive and felt tight as all hell.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

I didn't end up buying anything...

Trust me, the Picanto is a better drive than the Brio. I arrived in a 13 yr old double cab, drove the Brio, was disappointed... drove a 1 yr old Picanto and it was night and day, the Picanto was nippy, responsive and felt tight as all hell.

Fair enough, Still not convinced, in this segment of the market your comparing apples with apples essentially,

What will affect your desision will be, other factors like price,warrenty,service plan,fetures you get extra....

If you took a spreadsheet and tallied everything up I'm convinced its the best under 130k car here,with the best reliability and best equipment.

Sure if i had to say one thing I don't like is the styling from the back, but that's hardly a dealbreaker for me.

 

[krycor]

So I guess the polo entry price will be climbing ;-)

 

[Rouxenator]

So I guess the polo entry price will be climbing ;-)

It all depends where VWSA wants to position the Up! in the market. My guess is that because they have the Vivo and they will milk it to the end of time (like the Citi) they will keep the Up! somewhere between the Vivo and Polo. Unlike Europe where the Up! is the cheapest entry level VW we have the Vivo here, add to that some similarly sized competition like the Adam and 500 which are way more up market by the way, and VWSA has a cheap small car they can sell at a high price. The South Africa car buyer is one of the stupidest around and they will easy believe the Up! is competition for the Adam or 500.

 

[Slootvreter]

Meh. All these cars are staring to look the same.

 

[Electric]

Meh. All these cars are staring to look the same.

It's true.
that looks like a Daihatsu or something.

 

[Rouxenator]

I don't think it looks like anything else. If you followed the small VWs that were on offer in Europe you would see this descends from the Lupo and Fox. One of the reasons I like it is that VW designers actually took time to make it look a little different and more exciting and that shows. Unlike the rest of their line up.