VW Up lands in SA, we have prices - IOL Motoring

[HapticSimian]

It all depends where VWSA wants to position the Up! in the market. My guess is that because they have the Vivo and they will milk it to the end of time (like the Citi) they will keep the Up! somewhere between the Vivo and Polo. Unlike Europe where the Up! is the cheapest entry level VW we have the Vivo here, add to that some similarly sized competition like the Adam and 500 which are way more up market by the way, and VWSA has a cheap small car they can sell at a high price. The South Africa car buyer is one of the stupidest around and they will easy believe the Up! is competition for the Adam or 500.

The pricing's right there in the OP? :erm:

Up! is positioned below Vivo, if only slightly. VWSA will want to protect the Vivo market because it is locally produced, but I think that is going to prove quite the challenge...

 

[Rouxenator]

The pricing's right there in the OP? :erm:

Up! is positioned below Vivo, if only slightly. VWSA will want to protect the Vivo market because it is locally produced, but I think that is going to prove quite the challenge...

:wtf: since when does a stripped down Vivo cost R143,800 ?! Jeez Louise I have been out of touch with VWSA pricing... They are flippen insane.

 

[HapticSimian]

:wtf: since when does a stripped down Vivo cost R143,800 ?! Jeez Louise I have been out of touch with VWSA pricing... They are flippen insane.

At least ABS and aircon aren't on the options list any more, and it's hardly limited to VW. New car prices are generally a bit mental.

 

[Rouxenator]

In that light I would take the Up! before I take a Vivo. Power output is the same but the engine is a million times more advanced.

 

[07_10]

NA 3-cylinder = tin can.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

I actually think that this is a great little car. Way better than the overpriced, watered down version of a previous gen car known as the Vivo...

 

[Rouxenator]

NA 3-cylinder = tin can.

That little three potter 1l engine kicks out the same power a 1.4 Vivo engine. That is what I consider remarkable.

 

[Lupus]

I currently drive a 1.2lt Spark but if I wanted to get a new car the Up! might be up there especially if the engineering is like my old Polo.

 

[07_10]

That little three potter 1l engine kicks out the same power a 1.4 Vivo engine. That is what I consider remarkable.

I must be missing something. The 1.4 Vivo Trendline produces 63kw and 132Nm whereas the Up! produces 55kW and 95Nm. 95nm?? Even the horrid Datsun Go has more torque than that!
You want a remarkable engine, check out Ford's 1L EcoBoost. 92Kw and 175Nm. 1.0L???

 

[Rouxenator]

You forgot the Vivo Concept[-]panty[/-]line

 

[Rusty0]

No turbo?

 

[Kelerei]

Still remember Clarkson running out of petrol in Pripyat in the "Up exclamation mark".

 

[07_10]

You forgot the Vivo Concept[-]panty[/-]line
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Well I guess it was detuned for better fuel consumption. Still a trunkload more torque on the Vivo.

I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of stirring of the gear lever and plenty of pedal-to-the metal driving in the city, just to keep upto pace with that 3-cylinder.

 

[Colin62]

Well I guess it was detuned for better fuel consumption. Still a trunkload more torque on the Vivo.

Detuning a motor doesn't give it better consumption. If anything it's likely to increase the consumption.

 

[07_10]

Detuning a motor doesn't give it better consumption. If anything it's likely to increase the consumption.

Not according to VW. The 55kw does 5.4l/100km and the 63kw does 6.2l/100km

 

[HeftyCrab]

Still remember Clarkson running out of petrol in Pripyat in the "Up exclamation mark".

IIRC he genuinly enjoyed the car.

 

[Fazda]

Cute car. Crap price.
FYI - The UK model starts at £7,995 - about R135 000.

Sorry, but what is your point? The UK price is HIGHER than in SA!!

I am delighted that it has finally been released here! VW has missed a true baby for too long!

 

[kripstoe]

I drove one.. I would never ever ever put my money down to buy one... the test drive was enough for me to know that its a crap car.

Yes it may be put together well, and it may not break down or any of those things, but its a monumentally crap drive.

I'm genuinely interested what you base this one. Haven't driven one, so I'm quite intrigued. As the Youtube reviews I've seen (incl Fifth Gear), all rate it pretty high.

 

[kripstoe]

I must be missing something. The 1.4 Vivo Trendline produces 63kw and 132Nm whereas the Up! produces 55kW and 95Nm. 95nm?? Even the horrid Datsun Go has more torque than that!
You want a remarkable engine, check out Ford's 1L EcoBoost. 92Kw and 175Nm. 1.0L???

What does the Ford 1L EcoBoost cost?

 

[ToxicBunny]

I'm genuinely interested what you base this one. Haven't driven one, so I'm quite intrigued. As the Youtube reviews I've seen (incl Fifth Gear), all rate it pretty high.

The steering was vague for a new car.. The gearbox was decidedly not crisp enough.. The car was sluggish in comparison to its rivals.