Was judge Nicholson on the take?

[antowan]

Listening to the Zuma judgement, I cannot help but wonder if he was on the take. I remember thinking how peculiar it was for the Zuma supporters to have built a stage and booked artists to perform at a victory rally outside the courts when Nicholson gave judgement. It was as if they knew something nobody else did.

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

*shudder* I don't even want to think of it like that ...... way too many ramifications

 

[ShaunSA]

*shudder* I don't even want to think of it like that ...... way too many ramifications

QFT

 

[blunomore]

That is a very serious question you are asking. I don't even want to call it an allegation.

Once a judge's objectivity and credibility are removed, he is nothing.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Oh hell no.. that would just be fscking scary if thats the case

 

[shadowfox]

I just remember the supporters saying that they knew which way Nicolson would rule, because he seemed, in their words, to be a very sober man ... etc .. etc ...

Can't remember the exact wording. I was suspicious back then already - they seemed a little too sure of themselves.

 

[semiautomatix]

Before this SCA appeal, Zuma already stated he was probably going to lose. Hmmm... so if he knew he would most likely lose his appeal how was he so sure about winning the original trial?

Nicholson's judgment has changed the political landscape of South Africa, for the good in my opinion. But if this all happened as a result of a judge being on the take then the ramifications are enormous.

 

[shadowfox]

Might just be that they knew they couldn't get anywhere with the SCA judges?

It's all pure speculation anyways ... I don't think we'll ever know. But if Nicolson was ever hoping for a Supreme Court seat one day ... that hope got badly squashed.

 

[Abe]

Listening to the Zuma judgement, I cannot help but wonder if he was on the take. I remember thinking how peculiar it was for the Zuma supporters to have built a stage and booked artists to perform at a victory rally outside the courts when Nicholson gave judgement. It was as if they knew something nobody else did.

His judgement was strange at the time because all of the legal "experts" before the judgement were indicating that it was almost a slam dunk against Zuma. That said, all Zuma needed was time which he got as he would be president before any conviction.

 

[Xarog]

Listening to the Zuma judgement, I cannot help but wonder if he was on the take. I remember thinking how peculiar it was for the Zuma supporters to have built a stage and booked artists to perform at a victory rally outside the courts when Nicholson gave judgement. It was as if they knew something nobody else did.

I kind of wonder the opposite : Maybe Nicholson gave Zuma the dream ruling that he wanted, knowing that it would be shot down in the appeal. Better that than trying to give a good ruling and having Zuma get off on a technicality.

 

[shadowfox]

I kind of wonder the opposite : Maybe Nicholson gave Zuma the dream ruling that he wanted, knowing that it would be shot down in the appeal. Better that than trying to give a good ruling and having Zuma get off on a technicality.

Dunno about that ... he'd be risking his entire career on a shaky move like that.

 

[TELESPHORE]

Fate has strange ways of dealing with these matters. If it was not for that judgment and consequently sacking of Thabo Mbeki, the new party COPE would have not been formed in the wake of the ANC purging opposition to Zuma.

With hindsight it was an error that led to the awakening of a group that were forced to be silent, but not anymore.

 

[Alan]

Well he is leftwing. Perhaps he's another Cheeky Twatson

 

[shadowfox]

Well ... I just finished reading through the judgment.

First point ... Nicolson has a lot to answer for ... he got very severely criticised.

Second point ... based on what I've read - they can take it to ConCourt - but they'll just be wasting their time.

Third point ... and I'm guessing here, again, I'm hardly a legal expert, but this whole thing effectively doesn't mean that the NPA can go ahead and charge Zuma, it means that the charges against him still stand. At least that's how it seems.

 

[TELESPHORE]

Third point ... and I'm guessing here, again, I'm hardly a legal expert, but this whole thing effectively doesn't mean that the NPA can go ahead and charge Zuma, it means that the charges against him still stand. At least that's how it seems.

The court case had 2 sides to it. Zuma questioned the validity of the charges. Because the judge ruled in Zuma’s favor, the case could not continue. Now that that is overthrown, the case can continue with the original charges (well that is what I understand). Obviously with a different judge.

 

[2CentsWorth]

I doubt he was on the take. Perhaps he was thinking more about his future in a Jacob Zuma presidency

 

[shadowfox]

I doubt he was on the take. Perhaps he was thinking more about his future in a Jacob Zuma presidency

*lol* He was looking forward to a future take then

 

[JungleBoy]

The court case had 2 sides to it. Zuma questioned the validity of the charges. Because the judge ruled in Zuma’s favor, the case could not continue. Now that that is overthrown, the case can continue with the original charges (well that is what I understand). Obviously with a different judge.

That means it's back to the Pietermaritzburg high court again.
Somehow it doesn't matter who the presiding judge is.

 

[marine1]

Ofcourse the ANC knew before it came out, they were told what the outcome would be.

I doubt he was on the take. Perhaps he was thinking more about his future in a Jacob Zuma presidency

I agree

 

[shadowfox]

That means it's back to the Pietermaritzburg high court again.
Somehow it doesn't matter who the presiding judge is.

It won't go back to the Pietermaritzburg High Court - if it does go to court now it becomes a completely different case.

The case that time was whether the charges against Zuma were lawful - this time around, assuming they don't block it somehow again, it becomes a criminal case.

Different ballgame, different court, different judge.

Could drag on for years though.