WATCH: Dogs maul alleged housebreaker in Western Cape

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I'll have to disagree on that. If you have followed the news in any way over the last few years you'd consider a stranger in your yard as a danger to yourself and your family. .
what you consider a danger and what the law considers a danger are two different things.

And I'm often thinking the dude is a danger long before he even sets foot in my yard ... so ... still recognise that I can't shoot him if I even had a gun, which I don't.
 

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I'll have to disagree on that. If you have followed the news in any way over the last few years you'd consider a stranger in your yard as a danger to yourself and your family. .

Law doesn't see it that way and ZoomZoom makes my point for me. Dogs can attack trespassers because they have breached territory, you can't shoot someone on the same grounds, as I said, first line of defense and most effective.
 

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As long as the dogs inside his property boundary the thief has no recourse.

Just make sure your trained dogs don’t take out postal/parcel/other/scouts legitimate services else you have court cases. Usually fine when dogs roam back/side but allow those services entry in front.
 

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My old Rottie was trained in a dog school meant for German shepherds. After the first 2 blokes tried the attack suit thing they refused and I had to bring a jackass friend with extra padding with. XD
Educated dog
 

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He's lucky, my ridge would have never let go, she has some serious jaw power and is very protective of family.

That P.O.S got what was coming to him, dunno what he was doing but he had no business in that yard or on the roof.
Ah, so it's not just my Ridgie that does not appreciate strangers. We're actually trying to get her to calm down a bit - she's too protective, scares guests.
 

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The only thing is though - cops WILL shoot your dogs if they arrive and they are still attacking a human, regardless of whether the person is a criminal or not.

So if your dogs are protective of their yard and take someone down, you'd better have enough control over them to call them off and get them to safety before the cops arrive.
 

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Ah, so it's not just my Ridgie that does not appreciate strangers. We're actually trying to get her to calm down a bit - she's too protective, scares guests.

Mine knows the difference, the important thing is to introduce them to your guests so they know you allow it. She's like a giant puppy around people and looks after the kids like you won't beleive, loves babies and toddlers. I have no fear with her in the yard with them, no one will touch them while she lives.

How old is yours? They are super intelligent so even a little training goes a long way but the best is a close bond between family and them. It's not a dog you seperate, mine has broken gates and fences to get to family when she has been isolated for whatever reason.
 

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Mine knows the difference, the important thing is to introduce them to your guests so they know you allow it. She's like a giant puppy around people and looks after the kids like you won't beleive, loves babies and toddlers. I have no fear with her in the yard with them, no one will touch them while she lives.

How old is yours? They are super intelligent so even a little training goes a long way but the best is a close bond between family and them. It's not a dog you seperate, mine has broken gates and fences to get to family when she has been isolated for whatever reason.
Ours is just over a year old now. She's very much part of our family, sleeps in our room with us at night, watches tv with us on the couch. Absolute sweetest girl we could ask for, built like a tank though. We've done training, but just basic stuff and she sticks with us when we're out - Ridgies seem to have a very strong bond with their family.

Our only challenge at the moment is having people over, so we had a behaviourist over to give us some help.. work in progress for now. We don't have any small kids in the family though, so she's not a fan of kids. We definitely should/could have done better with socialising with people coming over more often - we were just so focused on getting her socialised when going out that we didn't even think about people coming over being an issue.
 

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Boeries and Rotties have a vast range of personalities. Jasper was not friendly with other dogs. I remember standing with him in the dog school while they sit in a row. Then some dude brings out another dog and lets him sniff the first dog in the row from head to toe. The first dog was already trained but the concept is for them to learn the behaviour of remaining calm. Jasper and me was last in the queue and I was panicking more than him.

The dog finally arrives and starts sniffing. He didn't like that for one second :ROFL:. Eyes bulging, teeth showing and back hair lifting up. He didn't move but he didn't like that one bit.

I still believe a level of responsibility is required and all this who ha of "my dog will never bite a kid" or something is exactly why we end up with stories like this:


Might be the friendliest dog in the world but I can see from his stance and the kids movement that this isn't a good situation.

Never around kids without me around. Both to klap the kid if he does something stupid like smack my dog's face and to have control over the dog since they are still animals.
 

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Ours is just over a year old now. She's very much part of our family, sleeps in our room with us at night, watches tv with us on the couch. Absolute sweetest girl we could ask for, built like a tank though. We've done training, but just basic stuff and she sticks with us when we're out - Ridgies seem to have a very strong bond with their family.

Our only challenge at the moment is having people over, so we had a behaviourist over to give us some help.. work in progress for now. We don't have any small kids in the family though, so she's not a fan of kids. We definitely should/could have done better with socialising with people coming over more often - we were just so focused on getting her socialised when going out that we didn't even think about people coming over being an issue.

A year is still very puppish, ours only calmed down at about 18 months and then I would say calmer relative to how she was, not calm as in calm.

I had a ridgeback as a child and loved the breed, the current is a rescue we adopted at 11/12 weeks, best decision ever and a great dog for the South African climate. I like Shephards but they tend to have a wealth of health problems and suffer with humidity in Durbs during summer.
 

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dude in yard that I believe is carrying a weapon and is advancing on me in the darkness = life in danger
I really hope you never have to put your beliefs to the test in the eyes of the law. Please educate yourself before you end up in more trouble than you want or need.
 

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I really hope you never have to put your beliefs to the test in the eyes of the law. Please educate yourself before you end up in more trouble than you want or need.
oh please, I can give you multiple examples of direct contacts of mine that have already blown criminals away, NONE have been found guilty of ANYTHING

in the moment you will have to make a call, err on the side of caution and die, or err on the side of survival and go explain yourself to a court

easy choice for me, you're welcome to your grave if you so choose though
 

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Boeries and Rotties have a vast range of personalities. Jasper was not friendly with other dogs. I remember standing with him in the dog school while they sit in a row. Then some dude brings out another dog and lets him sniff the first dog in the row from head to toe. The first dog was already trained but the concept is for them to learn the behaviour of remaining calm. Jasper and me was last in the queue and I was panicking more than him.

The dog finally arrives and starts sniffing. He didn't like that for one second :ROFL:. Eyes bulging, teeth showing and back hair lifting up. He didn't move but he didn't like that one bit.

I still believe a level of responsibility is required and all this who ha of "my dog will never bite a kid" or something is exactly why we end up with stories like this:


Might be the friendliest dog in the world but I can see from his stance and the kids movement that this isn't a good situation.

Never around kids without me around. Both to klap the kid if he does something stupid like smack my dog's face and to have control over the dog since they are still animals.
Our boerie and foxy spent many years together. She (boerie bitch) played very roughly, and he (foxy) was quite a bit older than her, and about 50 times smaller. He started snapping back eventually, and it would just sort of cool down and they'd go their separate ways. Until one day, she wasn't having any of it, and turned on him. Luckily, we were in the yard at the time. He had to have emergency surgery with tubes hanging out of his throat for drainage (his whole head was in her mouth at one point), and never ventured into the back yard again - we just weren't going to risk it. So he moved indoors, and went out to the front to do his business.

It's almost as if they're unsure of anything smaller than them (and for a 60kg dog, that's most things). A couple of years later my wife's cousin came to say hi when we were visiting my mom, and brought her 4-year old niece with. They came through the back, and the boerie bolted for her. Luckily the cousin reacted quickly, and got between them so the little one could get into the house unharmed.

Those incidents aside, she was super friendly with friends of the family she knew, and more so with the immediate family - you'd know because she'd lean against you (full body weight) so you could pat her.
 

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the clue is in 'threaten your life'. You have to actually be in actual danger. Dude in yard = not in danger.

FYI = You HAVE to have BEWARE OF THE DOG sign up on all entry points as well. Otherwise you are potentially in for a heap of trouble.
So one on the roof in this case as well?

I know, I know ... ;)
 
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