Watch: Man critical after BMW smashes into lane divider in Cape Town

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SauRoNZA

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300 is easy for most 20 year old 1000cc bikes. You underestimate how much power that is pulling basically no weight at all.

Again, bullshit.

Speedo is no indicator of true speed.

The Gixxer 1000 in 2005 was the first bike to break 300km/h stock standard.

That’s 13 years ago.

To say it’s “easy” is not even close to the truth.

The bike in the videos is a BMW S1000RR and it can reach 300km/h but as was illustrated it wasn’t on the limiter and it was clearly still accelerating so it wasn’t near that speed.

Even if highly modified it’s not going to get much further beyond that 300km/h barrier.

The guy doing the maths off the photos is the most likely to be even remotely accurate and brings me back to the bike doing 250-270km/h if I remember my first post on this correctly.
 

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300 is easy for most 20 year old 1000cc bikes. You underestimate how much power that is pulling basically no weight at all.

300 maybe as I know a lot of the 1000s are running out of puff around 290. But definitely not 330+ and not without significant mods.
 

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Not to mention the size of the balls required.

I did 299 and it's no farking joke. You feel mentally exhausted and drained. The concentration it requires to do that speed safely and keeping other cars in mind is insane. Doing 299 is like going past a stationary car at 179km/h if they are doing 120. It's no joke.

Yup been there done that.

Doesn’t really require that much balls if you used your brain and did it in daylight. Which is why we end up with these events transpiring because it’s just too easy for every other idiot to do.

But the dark and other traffic on the road here is exactly why I highly doubt the speeds are anywhere near that.

It’s easy to say the long stretch of road allows for it but not when there is traffic as per the video.
 

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300km/h on two wheels sounds like a lot of fun. Fastest I've ever gone on two wheels is 73km/h down Simola, scary stuff for me...
 

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The stretch these guys use on the N1 is closer to 3km so 300+ should definitely be possible if the car is capable.

Yep, it would only need less than 2km. You can see the one video where he races the Porsche. That Porsche driver tapped out under that bridge at 302km/h clock speed (probably 290-295km/h GPS speed)
 

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300 maybe as I know a lot of the 1000s are running out of puff around 290. But definitely not 330+ and not without significant mods.
290 is basically the same thing. I don't see the point of arguing about 20km/h and what true speed vs what the speedo says.

It's close enough, bikes are crazy fast, that's the point.
 

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I do believe you are right.

Riding a Bike around the safety of a race track vs public road though... jirre :D

It comes down to this;

TT Bikes and production superbikes are first-and-foremost road going. A MotoGP bike is a purpose-built racing machine.

This is an old video, but still relevant as MotoGP bikes are even faster than the one he rode. He has won the TT, so he can make the comparison.


If he unleashed the bike no doubt it'd obliterate any SBK around the course.

And yeah, those TT guys are a special breed.
 

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Agreed. 160 around that bend isn't fast.I open up deliberately when you drive under the speed limit. I always enjoy the moment I can pass that Sunday driver doing 40 in a 60 zone or 60 in 80 zone. More so if your windows are open. I'll push that V8 wide open.
I think a V8 bike will freak anybody out :p
 

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I did all my racing on farm dirt roads. The bikes don't even have speedos so who knows how fast it really was. All I know it was flat-out.

that is a lot of fun, and **** scary at the same time!
 

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As far as I know that bridge is covered by cctv camera - did whoever was watching it think a bridge full of people and parked cars was nothing to investigate ?

See how many people and cars were on this bridge aware of the street race, waiting for them, they should all be ashamed of themselves. And no SAPS or Traffic Control present :rolleyes:
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290 is basically the same thing. I don't see the point of arguing about 20km/h and what true speed vs what the speedo says.

It's close enough, bikes are crazy fast, that's the point.

Except that the speedo is probably out by 10% which is 30km/h at this level.

So people throw around lofty numbers that are already not achievable and then also quote the speedo (which depending on the car will read wrong when mods are done and tyres are changed) and before you know it people are “doing 330km/h” and meanwhile in reality it’s 260km/h which is quite different.

Not that the metal barrier next to the road was counting.

It just breeds a culture of misunderstanding and accepting fake news.

*****

The sheer amount of misinformation and complete and utter bullshit I’ve heard around this incident in the office is astounding.

Complete fallacies and people believe it and regurgitate it happily.
 

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Guys, I think the mother gave a decent interview.

Expecting someone in her (I'm assuming here) 50's to know why her son was driving an M3 F80, is a bit harsh. Let's leave the religious fanaticism out of it for a second.

I'm pretty sure the mom knew. There was a post on his Instagram (before it was made private) where he commented that nobody in Cape Town would beat his M3 any time soon. His sister then commented about getting dad to take him on with his car and then see who is really the fastest.
 

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290 is basically the same thing. I don't see the point of arguing about 20km/h and what true speed vs what the speedo says.

It's close enough, bikes are crazy fast, that's the point.

Never said they weren't. I'm just calling out the 330 claims.

And in a race 20 km/h is an ocean. The car/bike that is 20 km/h faster will blow past you.
 

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what hospital did he land up at ?
all the hospitals with proper trauma centres are quite a distance from the accident scene

chris barnard is a long sprint back to the city - but on a freeway the entire distance
vincent pallotti - part freeway
panorama - also part freeway
tygerberg - a really long sprint, but probably the most experienced in high impact trauma
I read somewhere yesterday that he's at Life Vincent Palotti - I'll try and find that article
 

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Suzuki GSX-Rs. Could be 600s, 750s or 1000s.

Only the 1000s are capable or reaching the claimed speed the bike was doing and that would be with modifications.
Those are either 600 or 750, 2006/7 year models I believe. The 1000 GSX-R does not look exactly the same as the smaller bikes
 
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