Watch: Man critical after BMW smashes into lane divider in Cape Town

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FYI Youtube Getaway in Stockholm, in particular the one with the Toyota Supra. He races through Stockholm city and when a cop car latches onto him he makes a break for the highway and hits 320km/h. It's worth noting that all the other cars on the highway looked like they were standing still.

This is where you can expect k@k because dad and mom in their station wagon won't even see you coming even if they looked in their rear view mirror they still won't be able to process just how fast you are approaching.
 

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That's what I thought, and it is called the World Superbike Championship and abbreviated WSBK fyi (http://www.worldsbk.com/) I see sometimes people refer to the supersport/superstock class as SWC.

and I was agreeing with you on that front, I know WSBK has very limiting rules, where I'm disagreeing is only on the MotoGP front, there are very few limits in MotoGP, the bike must be maximum a certain capacity (but it can be lower should you wish) and it must be 4-stroke. There is no ECU / speed / power limit at all and you get weird and wonderful engine layouts like V5 / V4 / inline 4 and whatever else engineers can dream up precisely because the rules are not limiting in MotoGP.

There's also no requirement that the bike should resemble something that is in production and available to the public at all (which is another WSBK requirement). All in all MotoGP is very much a prototype racer class, less limiting rules than F1, maybe slightly more limiting than the most prototype focused race class in existence: LMP1


Yeah sorry they have to use the same ECU in MotoGP, but they can tune it as they like it take it.


This was in 2016:
ECU
The switch to a standard ECU was arguably the most profound change – and certainly the one that got the biggest buzz. Every bike has been fitted with the same unified hardware and software. The switch essentially means a more level playing field for the entire grid.
 

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With regards to the arguing about the speed of the bike - surely someone knows where in CT this happened? Go in to google earth and measure the distances between the lamp posts, then use that to accurately calculate the speed.
/facepalm

such obvious logic :D

well yeah lots of us know where it happened, now you do to:
https://earth.app.goo.gl/?apn=com.g...92021,15.2671179a,1207.52910007d,35y,0h,0t,0r

I measure 54.75m between the lampposts with Google Earth (zoomed in carefully to ensure I measure base-to-base)
 

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Yeah sorry they have to use the same ECU in MotoGP, but they can tune it as they like it take it.


This was in 2016:
ECU
The switch to a standard ECU was arguably the most profound change – and certainly the one that got the biggest buzz. Every bike has been fitted with the same unified hardware and software. The switch essentially means a more level playing field for the entire grid.
A standard ECU that has no power restrictions, that's the point, it was introduced to "level the playing field", not to limit the ultimate top end power of any engine.
 

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I am an everyday biker for the last 9 years now.
I once lifted a friend 25yrs ago about 500 metres on a straight road. Crapped myself. Never again.
I'm too scared to lift again :ROFL::laugh:
I don't like doing it with little bikes. 750 and over its not too bad, but does depend on the size of the other person and whether they know how to behave. Front wheel does tend to lift on a quick pull away with the extra person though.
 

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I don't like doing it with little bikes. 750 and over its not too bad, but does depend on the size of the other person and whether they know how to behave. Front wheel does tend to lift on a quick pull away with the extra person though.

Yeah you need to sit your pillion down first time you ride with them and provide a little training and guide them in your expectations of them.

I don’t life anyone who weights the same as myself or more.
 

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A standard ECU that has no power restrictions, that's the point, it was introduced to "level the playing field", not to limit the ultimate top end power of any engine.


Well, seems they are in fact limited to what they can do with the ECU... and it seems it will get worse this year seeing they want to ban the IMU now, like FTW!

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/motogp-s-next-electronics-ban


MotoGP is better than it’s ever been for several reasons, including 2016’s move to control software.

Dorna’s control software narrowed the performance gap between the motorcycles and most importantly gave control back to the riders, so when you see Marc Márquez or Johann Zarco smoking the rear tyre, that’s their right wrists playing the game of risk versus reward, rather than a little black box playing rhythms with its algorithms. Up to a point, anyway.

For years Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta fought with factory bosses to ban factory-made software, which was transforming MotoGP bikes into computer-controlled missiles. It was a huge day for Ezpeleta when he finally won the battle to introduce control software (and God only knows how he did it).

Now Dorna is again downgrading electronics to further close the performance gap and remove more electronics rider assistance: from the end of this season tailormade factory IMUs will be banned.

What’s an IMU? An inertial measurement unit is to the ECU software what your sensory system is to your brain. It tells the rider-control systems where the bike is and what it’s doing: pitching, yawing, rolling and so on. A MotoGP IMU consists of gyroscopes and accelerometers, which perform these measurements to calculate banking rate, pitch rate and other dynamic factors. Accelerometers were first seriously used in the World War II, when the US Air Force used them to monitor g-forces on fighter pilots.
In theory, an IMU’s sole purpose is to make calculations from lateral g-forces and other measurements it makes, then send the results to the ECU, which uses the numbers to operate the traction control, wheelie control, engine-braking control and launch control.
So why does Dorna want to ban tailormade IMUs? Because it is certain that most factories and teams are bending the rules and using the software within their own IMUs to help the ECU software perform better. This is illegal but almost impossible to police.
 

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Yeah you need to sit your pillion down first time you ride with them and provide a little training and guide them in your expectations of them.

I don’t life anyone who weights the same as myself or more.
My first experience lifting somebody was a female friend that had significant experience as an off-road pillion, middle of the ride she just stands up grabs the camera from my pocket and starts tacking pictures. I have also lifted people that were terrified of the idea and that was a completely different experience. From my experience the quality of the ride is a huge function of how relaxed the pillion is.
 

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This thread has turned into a bike-nerd rambling thread... meh. :sleep:
Well we now know the distance between lampposts at least: 54.75m

So if IT_Steven's times between lampposts are correct:
Trying some unscientific and back of the napkin calculations
Anyone know what the distance is between those lamp posts in the image (red line)?

Rough time estimates I have between lamp posts are:
0.58s for the bike
and 0.77s for the leading car
(Would be interesting if other people could see what figures they can come up with.)

So, if for example the distance between posts are say 50m (and assuming those times mentioned are correct) then we would get :

Bike : 310 km/h (seems a bit fast - don't know bike speeds - if so maybe 50m incorrect or timing a bit off)
Car : 233 km/h

Then we know the lead car was going 256km/h and brother tawfeeq's mods were a waste of money as the M3 can do that bone stock, he should have invested in driving lessons rather ...
 

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Then we know the lead car was going 256km/h and brother tawfeeq's mods were a waste of money as the M3 can do that bone stock, he should have invested in driving lessons rather ...

His modded F80 M3 beat a 911 GT3...I saw the racing video where he is celebrating "a revenge". I assume he says revenge because earlier video from last year, the Porsche walked away from his F80 M3 like he was standing.
 
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His modded F80 M3 beat a 911 GT3...I saw the racing video where he is celebrating "a revenge". I assume he says revenge because earlier video from last year, the Porsche walked away from his F80 M3 like he was standing.

I doubt the 911GT3 even knew it was racing when it supposedly lost that race...
 
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