Watch: Man critical after BMW smashes into lane divider in Cape Town

[acidrain]

It seems a lot of hate is taken up a notch because the guy seems to be more wealthy than most of us. Im sure if it was an old car, the focus would have only been how dumb he was to be racing and that it is his own fault (which it was)

Look I don't think he earned a cent of his apparent wealth but yes, perhaps envy has some play in the matter.

 

[Grant]

Challenge accepted.

https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/m...ence-the-unforgettable-sound-of-the-s-1000-rr

we'll race from helsinki to the north pole

 

[TysonRoux]

Look I don't think he earned a cent of his apparent wealth but yes, perhaps envy has some play in the matter.

Speak for yourself.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that this dumb illegal street racing fool was wealthy.

To me it looks like he couldn't afford the monthly bank payments on the BMW forcing him to look for cheap tyres, and a lack of intellect to select tyres that are appropriately rated.

 

[acidrain]

Didn't say he was wealthy... in fact I said he was the opposite but his apparent/perceived/assumed wealth tends to make people butt hurt.

Just so I'm clear on the last part as well, not saying people are butt hurt but we can't judge emotional motives from behind a computer.

 

[The Voice]

Speak for yourself.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that this dumb illegal street racing fool was wealthy.

To me it looks like he couldn't afford the monthly bank payments on the BMW forcing him to look for cheap tyres, and a lack of intellect to select tyres that are appropriately rated.

Think there's mention in this thread somewhere, or in one of the articles, that he, or at least someone in his family (his dad?), had several cars, including an R35. Not exactly cheap. Even if it's his dad's, all the slamous I've known share their wealth with immediate family, so if Daddy's rich, so are the kids. And they have expensive toys.

And even rich people aren't going to throw money away by burning out expensive tyres, especially if they do it regularly.

But yeah. I don't agree with the negative sentiment aimed at him because he was well off, or people almost getting lekker because of what happened to him. It's ****ed up. He's paid the ultimate price already. Just be thankful he didn't take out an innocent family when he screwed up, because all too often that's what happens.

 

[Barbarian Conan]

Challenge accepted.

https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/m...ence-the-unforgettable-sound-of-the-s-1000-rr

The winner would depend on the length of the race...

 

[Solarion]

So fake news then?.

I guess.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

They did a second race, rolling, the GT3 pulled ahead but when F80 M3 started putting down its power, it overtook the GT3.

What kind of a peasant does a rolling start with such cars?!? That shyte is for Nascar ... where despite the low skill level the drivers are still infinitely more skilled than brother tawfeeq.

 

[qscwbt]

driving an auto requires no skill these days

 

[SauRoNZA]

driving an auto requires no skill these days

You make it sound like it was different before.

Driving a manual takes no skill either, it’s just unnecessary work.

Put enough power into an auto and you have all the same skill requirements and can actually focus on what’s important instead of trying to make your car feel more powerful than it really is by driving a manual.

 

[SauRoNZA]

The winner would depend on the length of the race...

Or simply the number of tight corners on the track. Even a short one.

Tracks are real racing. This drag nonsense is just boring.

 

[qscwbt]

You make it sound like it was different before.

Driving a manual takes no skill either, it’s just unnecessary work.

Put enough power into an auto and you have all the same skill requirements and can actually focus on what’s important instead of trying to make your car feel more powerful than it really is by driving a manual.

Had a race against a a45 amg ( at odi) The driver press launch control keep foot on brake and floor the accelerator. If the light goes he lets go of the brake pedal. then all he needs to do is hold the wheel straight. the car launches, controls wheel spin changes gears at optimum rpm. His wife got in and run a identical time to his.

If you put a 10 year old in the dsg car he would run the same time. its like playing a racing game and just hitting x on the playstation. DSG suddenly made everyone a racer lol.

In a manual you have control the rpm and clutch control to launch with no bog or wheel spin. you change gears not the computer. its all driver input.

On a track normal everyday cars with dsg show how manual still out perform them. overheating dsg system, car changing gears at incorrect time preventing proper entry and exit speed on corners.

not a fan of the auto

 

[SauRoNZA]

Had a race against a a45 amg ( at odi) The driver press launch control keep foot on brake and floor the accelerator. If the light goes he lets go of the brake pedal. then all he needs to do is hold the wheel straight. the car launches, controls wheel spin changes gears at optimum rpm. His wife got in and run a identical time to his.

If you put a 10 year old in the dsg car he would run the same time. its like playing a racing game and just hitting x on the playstation. DSG suddenly made everyone a racer lol.

In a manual you have control the rpm and clutch control to launch with no bog or wheel spin. you change gears not the computer. its all driver input.

On a track normal everyday cars with dsg show how manual still out perform them. overheating dsg system, car changing gears at incorrect time preventing proper entry and exit speed on corners.

not a fan of the auto

Well drag racing is silly and therefore so is launch control.

For proper track there is a manual paddle option for the very reason of controlling the gears and changing at the correct times affording you the same proper entry and exit speeds.

You don’t need to be a fan, but using a manual hardly makes a superior driver of you.

 

[Adenoid Hynkel]

Had a race against a a45 amg ( at odi) The driver press launch control keep foot on brake and floor the accelerator. If the light goes he lets go of the brake pedal. then all he needs to do is hold the wheel straight. the car launches, controls wheel spin changes gears at optimum rpm. His wife got in and run a identical time to his.

If you put a 10 year old in the dsg car he would run the same time. its like playing a racing game and just hitting x on the playstation. DSG suddenly made everyone a racer lol.

In a manual you have control the rpm and clutch control to launch with no bog or wheel spin. you change gears not the computer. its all driver input.

On a track normal everyday cars with dsg show how manual still out perform them. overheating dsg system, car changing gears at incorrect time preventing proper entry and exit speed on corners.

not a fan of the auto

How is the identical car one being manual vs DSG/PDK going to result in faster lap times? An experienced driver manually shifts in about 0.2 seconds. This equates to loosing 0.2 of acceleration each time an upshift happens. You can easily work out how many times you upshift on a certain track. You can then easily calculate how much acceleration you'll lose per lap and convert that to lost time.

Please show me some sources of the same car, where manual outperforms dual clutch paddle shifting.

 

[Grant]

The winner would depend on the length of the race...

the winner in this particular challenge would depend on the depth of snow and volume of ice on the road en route to the north pole from helsinki

 

[qscwbt]

How is the identical car one being manual vs DSG/PDK going to result in faster lap times? An experienced driver manually shifts in about 0.2 seconds. This equates to loosing 0.2 of acceleration each time an upshift happens. You can easily work out how many times you upshift on a certain track. You can then easily calculate how much acceleration you'll lose per lap and convert that to lost time.

Please show me some sources of the same car, where manual outperforms dual clutch paddle shifting.

I hope you not calculating a dsg is quicker based on shift time.
The additional hardware needed by dsg can weigh as much as sixty pounds, which hampers acceleration, braking, and cornering. The energy needed to operate the transmission has to come from somewhere, whether that somewhere is an engine-operated hydraulic pump or an electric manipulator. Excluding the weight there is many factors to consider.

I have driven both manual and dsg on a track. I will take manual any day.
Had many straight line races in a manual vs dsg and it did not help them win.

all done on a track.

 

[IT_Steven]

He is awake. Eating. Talking. Aware of amputations. No signs of brain damage.

 

[dualmeister]

Caught street racing illegally? Western Cape provincial traffic authorities could soon be able to impound your car.

The Western Cape Provincial Road Traffic Administration Amendment Bill could see speedsters' wheels being confiscated permanently or for the duration of their reckless and negligent driving trial should a proposal from the City of Cape Town's mayoral committee member for safety and security, JP Smith, be accepted.

According to the National Prosecuting Authority, motorists found guilty of reckless driving can be sentenced to a fine or imprisonment not exceeding six years. Conviction for negligence carries a maximum prison term of three years.

From News 24

 

[Adenoid Hynkel]

I hope you not calculating a dsg is quicker based on shift time.
The additional hardware needed by dsg can weigh as much as sixty pounds, which hampers acceleration, braking, and cornering. The energy needed to operate the transmission has to come from somewhere, whether that somewhere is an engine-operated hydraulic pump or an electric manipulator. Excluding the weight there is many factors to consider.

I have driven both manual and dsg on a track. I will take manual any day.
Had many straight line races in a manual vs dsg and it did not help them win.

all done on a track.

You clearly prefer manual. Stating manual is quicker without proof, meh. Show me numbers of the same car, same driver, same conditions, manual vs paddle shift.

 

[Solitude]

Caught street racing illegally? Western Cape provincial traffic authorities could soon be able to impound your car.

The Western Cape Provincial Road Traffic Administration Amendment Bill could see speedsters' wheels being confiscated permanently or for the duration of their reckless and negligent driving trial should a proposal from the City of Cape Town's mayoral committee member for safety and security, JP Smith, be accepted.

According to the National Prosecuting Authority, motorists found guilty of reckless driving can be sentenced to a fine or imprisonment not exceeding six years. Conviction for negligence carries a maximum prison term of three years.

From News 24

Here's the link for those interested:
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/illegal-street-racers-jp-smith-wants-your-car-20190127