Watch: Man critical after BMW smashes into lane divider in Cape Town

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MR.C

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You must be cut from the same cloth, the same culture and mindset as the idiotic imbecile Tawfeeq, downplaying illegal street racing.

No doubt this illegal street racing will continue while we still have backward communities supporting it, but hopefully the police will start doing something about it to protect the innocent respectable road users.

Your true colours are showing "soldier".
Please edit your posts. Your use of the word "soldier" offends me because it doesn't really say anything about who I am, only about your lack of understanding of me, and by you trying to use your lack of mental, psychological and spiritual understanding of my religion to try to prove your point is not on.

You also posted another link of a Muslim guy bumping and causing injury to a 7 year old kid, what was your intention with that ?
 

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Wow - how the conversation has devolved from one of strong disapproval of the wannabee racers actions to peoples religious persuasions :confused: Seems the norm on this forum - such a shame. (and this coming from an Atheist :laugh:)

would be nice to get some sort of tangible statement from the dumbass himself or his ilk. I for one would like to see this matter pursued further by the necessary law enforcement. For the sake of other road users.
 
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You can try to warn others as much as you want or can, but you won't eliminate it. Calling all the lities stupid or dom or whatever makes you feel superior still won't change things.
True, but crushing the cars of street racers, putting them in jail and passing around graphic photos of injuries incurred might.
 

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True, but crushing the cars of street racers, putting them in jail and passing around graphic photos of injuries incurred might.

Given their attitude to this sort of thing, I honestly doubt it... it would just make them more confrontational and dangerous...
 

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You do understand that it will happen again ?

It's not the first ever racing accident ever to happen in South Africa by youngsters racing fast cars and definitely won't be the last.

You can try to warn others as much as you want or can, but you won't eliminate it. Calling all the lities stupid or dom or whatever makes you feel superior still won't change things.
So what is your solution, give up trying to save lives and protect the public from these people who put their own and more importantly innocent motorists lives at risk?

Also, your post is idiotic. People change every day. There are many countries that have almost no illegal street racing when they used to have plenty because the community clamped down it and ostracized those that do it. Australia is one that springs to mind. Everyone who has ever lived in Australia will tell you the same thing, their traffic enforcement is incredible and people are very good at not speeding. We need to move in that direction. Racing is a legitimate sport but it needs to be done in controlled safe conditions. Not public roads.
 

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So what is your solution, give up trying to save lives and protect the public from these people who put their own and more importantly innocent motorists lives at risk?

Also, your post is idiotic. People change every day. There are many countries that have almost no illegal street racing when they used to have plenty because the community clamped down it and ostracized those that do it. Australia is one that springs to mind. Everyone who has ever lived in Australia will tell you the same thing, their traffic enforcement is incredible and people are very good at not speeding. We need to move in that direction. Racing is a legitimate sport but it needs to be done in controlled safe conditions. Not public roads.

Solution, live ammo, just start shooting at them. They will either learn eventually, or be dead. Win win.
 

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Strange that the stretch where these criminals usually get up to these childish shenanigans aren't monitored more proactively. Going on what I've read so far, it's a well known spot for these sort of activities and law enforcement are aware of this fact. We need stricter enforcement, more proactive monitoring, extremely harsh punishment and seizure of assets (cars). Traffic officers should pull over cars that are clearly 'modified'. Looking at this clowns car it can be clearly identified as out of the manufacturer spec either visually or through the obvious sound that piece of junk makes.

Not sure how realistic that last point is...in retrospect. The whole sleeper culture is now a thing too it seems. Still though, a car too loud should be pulled of public roads. There is a car noise law in this country surely?
 

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Strange that the stretch where these criminals usually get up to these childish shenanigans aren't monitored more proactively. Going on what I've read so far, it's a well known spot for these sort of activities and law enforcement are aware of this fact. We need stricter enforcement, more proactive monitoring, extremely harsh punishment and seizure of assets (cars). Traffic officers should pull over cars that are clearly 'modified'. Looking at this clowns car it can be clearly identified as out of the manufacturer spec either visually or through the obvious sound that piece of junk makes.

Not sure how realistic that last point is...in retrospect. The whole sleeper culture is now a thing too it seems. Still though, a car too loud should be pulled of public roads. There is a car noise law in this country surely?

Re: law enforcement - some serious allegations in this radio talk show: large cash bettings, cops getting a cut, cop insiders warning racers should a patrol be coming their way, etc. Racing fans using that ridiculous argument: well where can we race? ("It's illegal" should be the short answer.)

But weak arguing allround.

https://iono.fm/e/647404
 

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Re: law enforcement - some serious allegations in this radio talk show: large cash bettings, cops getting a cut, cop insiders warning racers should a patrol be coming their way, etc. Racing fans using that ridiculous argument: well where can we race? ("It's illegal" should be the short answer.)

But weak arguing allround.

https://iono.fm/e/647404


Now THAT explains a lot. can't say I'm at all surprised. Neither would I be surprised that the guy that crashed will not be taken to task and investigated further despite the overwhelming evidence of him contravening the law. Greasing the palms of law enforcement seems to go hand in hand with these sort of activities, so it appears.
 

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Given their attitude to this sort of thing, I honestly doubt it... it would just make them more confrontational and dangerous...
Possibly, but the time has come to stop treating them with kid gloves, if they get dangerous and confrontational arrest them.
 

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So how much crap can one get into if one goes to where they race and throw a brick at them while they come by at 200km/h+

Should remove his head if you throw it just right :)
 

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As mentioned in earlier post the City cannot prosecute using footage from private citizens :cautious:

Cape Town - From speeding trucks to dicing MyCiTi buses, reckless drivers in city council vehicles have been caught red-handed on dash cam footage.

However, the City has confirmed to Weekend Argus that it cannot prosecute the drivers despite evidence given by a concerned citizen with the Twitter account @ItsYourDriver.

In the recent preliminary Festive Season Road Safety report, Transport Minister Blade Nzimande said road fatalities had increased by 5.6% from the previous year.

KwaZulu-Natal recorded the most deaths at 328, followed by the Eastern Cape at 238, Gauteng 219, Limpopo 178, Mpumalanga 162, the Free State 159, the Western Cape 149, the North West 125 and the Northern Cape 54.

@ItsYourDriver said it was for this reason that he wanted the city to re-examine its policies.

However, JP Smith, mayoral committee member for safety and security, is: “It is not possible for traffic officers to pursue motorists for speeding and other offences based on third-party footage.

“The Cape Town Traffic Services must adhere to strict prosecuting guidelines when conducting traffic violations enforcement by means of cameras or video cameras.

“This includes fixed cameras, mobile cameras, and video cameras.”

In guidelines section 1.7, published in December 2012, it is stated that the city has to apply to the Director of Public Prosecutions for authority to conduct traffic law enforcement by means of camera.

@ItsYourDriver shared three incidents where dash cam footage had captured a gas truck speeding, city trucks racing and two buses racing.

“I’m still very disappointed with the city following completely outdated procedures and processes. This country has the worst road carnage in the world and I’m sure you know what they say about drastic times needing drastic measures.

“My objective is not to get anyone fired or prosecuted. My objective is that a company owner or head of logistics or, in this case, someone at the City of Cape Town, gets reprimanded and subsequently calls all its drivers in for an emergency meeting.

“Then shows all the drivers the footage provided and warns drivers that they are being watched because South Africa is full of dash cams.

“In other words, if one of their drivers gets caught misbehaving on video they are in the street, no excuses.”

Smith said illegal driving behaviour could be reported to the police and a docket opened.

“In this instance, you will be required to lead evidence in a court of law and may produce your video footage to support your evidence,” Smith said.

“You may also send your video footage to the Cape Town Traffic Services, with road name, place and time, and it will be attended to as a complaint. It will then be attended to by our officers.”

Mayoral committee member for transport Felicity Purchase said commuters and residents were encouraged to report incidents of reckless driving by MyCiTi bus drivers to the Transport Information Centre on 0800 65 64 63.

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So how much crap can one get into if one goes to where they race and throw a brick at them while they come by at 200km/h+

Should remove his head if you throw it just right :)


At 200km/hr+ you would have to time throwing that brick to near perfection with any hope of hitting the car let alone alone the windscreen :laugh:

Beside, it would be illegal and extremely rude (for lack of a more empathizing term) to do something like that. Karma's somewhat of a bitch
 

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The funny thing is people in SA seem to believe that because they disagree with politics, they 'allowed' to disobey laws.. and then when fraud and corruption is endemic they point the finder at others forgetting that normalisation of law disobedience is the cause. I'll say it again.. the decay in morality in SA has reached epic proportions and we are now dealing with the fall out.

To me, drastic measure is the only way to correct the situation.. playing nice with criminals (break the law, that's what you are) will just exacerbate the issue. Society needs a reboot.
 
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