Watch out Google!

[rpm]

http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_1730017,00.html

"Microsoft's new search engine may rival or even surpass the world's most popular web tool Google, Microsoft co-founder and chairman Bill Gates said on Thursday. "

 

[TheRoDent]

Riiiiiighht. Man, Microsoft has got a chip on their shoulders.

 

[Scott]

Thats nice microsoft...

 

[SK33T]

Quote Bill Gates
"I think we'll surprise them by showing how we can do a search that's as good or better than they do. Consumers benefit from that type of competition."



I like the part consumers benefit from competition,Telkom should take note.

 

[kilps]

Some company is a wanabe-take-over-the world-company - at least telkom are restricted to SA

I like Google

 

[Scott]

Bill Gates has gone mad...
...he is starting to use his money for evil (like telkom)



kilps...we all like google

 

[Celemasiko]

Its too late for Microsoft to overcome Google.

 

[bb_matt]

Quote Bill Gates
"I think we'll surprise them by showing how we can do a search that's as good or better than they do. Consumers benefit from that type of competition."



I like the part consumers benefit from competition,Telkom should take note.

hahaha - I like that statement too, but Telkom need not be worried, Microsoft is the big daddy of Monopolies !

That's so rich coming from a company currently in a legal wrangle over anti-competitive behaviour !

Microsoft are currently sh1tting themselves over Google, one of the biggest reasons for this is that WindowXP adoption, 4 years after release, is still worrying low for Redmond.

That doesn't bode well for their next iteration, Longhorn, as what consumers and businesses are essentially saying to Microsoft is that they don't feel the need to upgrade anymore, hense Microsofts decision to realease key Longhorn components as updates to WindowsXP, one of which will most likely be their search functionality - something MacOSx beat them to with Spotlight.

Given the fact that Google is completely platform independent, accessible by all internet enabled devices while microsoft are shackled to microsoft enabled devices, Google has the edge by a massive margin.

It's a LOT of hot air by microsoft, who are puffing out their chests in a display of bravado, when meantime Google are ignoring them and going about business as usual.

Oh how the mighty do fall !

 

[eye_suc]

Difference between SA Telecoms and Global software is that there are no laws preventing you from creating a windows killer OS, but there are laws preventing you from starting a telecom rival to Telkom. Why would anybody be so cruel?

 

[Luke7777]

Maybe Bill should consentrate first on getting his windows XP search to find specific text in txt AS WELL AS asp files, before he looks at Google

 

[stoke]

Ha ha ha ha ha - in xp the search facility cannot even find my hosts file.

And - any hype ms is building is simply being done to increase the percieved value so the advertisers on ms's search facility can be overcharged.

I bet the the initial page has an advert on it.

 

[SlimJim]

any competition is a good thing... damn shame its microsoft though

 

[regardtv]

hehe... so if MS's search engines started trawling the web today they'd probably be indentified as a DDOS attack on the whole of South Africa ;-) ...

Telkom ... give us more BW before MS starts to trawl ;-)

 

[stoke]

Now you see - there'z your mistake already...
"Telkom ... give us ..."
The only thing Teklom will give you is a good shafting in the ...

 

[slimothy]

you gusy are too predictable, "i hate microsoft, i love google"

they're basically the same, http://www.google-watch.org/

they both break laws, they both have executed cencorship on behalf of the american govement, they both filter the words "freedom" "religion" "capatalism" and "porn" (to name a few) from users in china, they have both broken the law in many respects and they are both multi national american monopolies (well technically neither of them are monopolies but they both have 70% of the market share and don't exactly love the idea of sharing that with anyone)

 

[Luke7777]

Ha ha ha ha ha - in xp the search facility cannot even find my hosts file.

go advance options in search, tick "Search System Folders" and "Search Hidden Files and folders"

 

[Turtle]

you gusy are too predictable, "i hate microsoft, i love google"

Slimothy, your attempt to cast the prevailing attitude here as being ideological and non-rational is way off-base, totally unaligned with facts, and is frankly an insult to the intelligence of the members of this forum. I can assure you that Microsoft have broken far more many laws, and lost far many more court cases as a result of their illegal and unethical behaviour than Google have. And yet all you can come up with as "proof" of Google's supposed "evilness" is that lame google-watch site, which amounts to little more than "ooh ooh google is so evil, they use cookies! omg cookies are evil!!11!one!" I suspect you're the one falling for an ideological meme, not us. Most of us can tell that Google actually innovates and produces good technology, that Microsoft are perpetually years behind and always playing 'catch-up' as they copy peoples ideas, and most of us are being gouged by Microsoft's 80%-margin monopoly pricing, whereas Google's products are free to us because Google's clients are advertisers. None of us are ever forced to use Google's products either (people use them WILLINGLY and voluntarily!), whereas most of us are essentially forced to use Microsoft's low-quality products (at work, etc.). Your attempt to cast things into good/evil and love/hate dichotomies is wrong, let me correct you: companies are neither good nor evil, they're like people, they have bits of both. Microsoft is "mostly bad but sometimes good", while Google is "mostly good but sometimes bad". And we judge companies the same way we judge people - the 'mostly bad' variety we dislike, and 'mostly good' variety we don't dislike. Hence, like people, we can still like a company that sometimes does bad things - does that help you understand it?

Anyway, back OT, Bill Gates is like "Watch out Google! We might soon now, sometime in the future, be able to have a search that is only as good as Google's search was years ago already!" La-ame! It's sad that people's expectations of Microsoft have dropped so low that we are actually impressed when they manage to catch up to five-year-old technology (similar to how SAns here are genuinely impressed when Telkom installs their ADSL in "only" two weeks or less). I'd hardly call that "competition".

 

[kilps]

I am sorry but that site is LAME - they have a probelm with 'those awful google ads' I much prefer them to yahoo etc - they look neat and I actually find them usefull sometimes.

For all searches they record the cookie ID, your Internet IP address, the time and date, your search terms, and your browser configuration. Increasingly, Google is customizing results based on your IP number. This is referred to in the industry as "IP delivery based on geolocation."

Thats fine by me - just don't give it out, if it imporves the search WHY NOT???? Please don't tell me that Yahoo etc and tons of other sites don't use such methods. its cleaver - don't tell me that they are going to deside that I am the only person they are going to target?

Google has no data retention policies. There is evidence that they are able to easily access all the user information they collect and save.

See above - why would they?

Google won't say why they need this data: Inquiries to Google about their privacy policies are ignored. When the New York Times (2002-11-28) asked Sergey Brin about whether Google ever gets subpoenaed for this information, he had no comment.

Don't they use it to improve search results?

Google hires spooks:
Matt Cutts, a key Google engineer, used to work for the National Security Agency. Google wants to hire more people with security clearances, so that they can peddle their corporate assets to the spooks in Washington.

Pure assumtion - that guy probably is damn smart and after making america more secure went on to work for Google - whats wrong with that?

Judging from Ninth Circuit precedent on the application of U.S. copyright laws to the Internet, Google's cache copy appears to be illegal. The only way a webmaster can avoid having his site cached on Google is to put a "noarchive" meta in the header of every page on his site. Surfers like the cache, but webmasters don't. Many webmasters have deleted questionable material from their sites, only to discover later that the problem pages live merrily on in Google's cache. The cache copy should be "opt-in" for webmasters, not "opt-out."

Any chance that you as a webmaster would put that meta thingy in the header if data might be questionable?

With 200 million searches per day, most from outside the U.S., Google amounts to a privacy disaster waiting to happen. Those newly-commissioned data-mining bureaucrats in Washington can only dream about the sort of slick efficiency that Google has already achieved.

I am still waiting

Sorry but Zuma could argue his points better

 

[slimothy]

you dont understand its not a bias for or against google, its just saying, don't be fooled, take a look at it objectivly, i use google and its an efficent search engine and they have very cool toys in the google lab, but i won't just be like "awesome i love google so much" if they mess up with the abu garab prison scandal or cencor china i have a problem with it. Microsoft might have a few cool tricks up its sleeve but i'd say watch for the smaller technologies like clusty etc etc, convergance is king

 

[ic]

I was wondering what M$ would be doing to survive the Open Source movement, I suppose this is one of those things...