WATCH: SAPS launch investigation into White River police station assault

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Just don't get road rage and pick a fight that you cannot win. Then you'll be fine.
This is Africa where people pick fights with you just because of the color of your skin.

Even sitting in traffic minding your own business can get you into trouble.
 

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This is Africa where people pick fights with you just because of the color of your skin.

Even sitting in traffic minding your own business can get you into trouble.
Well no BS.

We have a lot of issues, but lets not pretend it is worse than it is. The victimhood complex helps nobody.

Unless you also use Twitter whilst driving. The real world isn't Twitter.
 

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More to this than meets the eye I'm sure.

(I'm not condoning violence or police non-intervention, but I'm pretty sure something prompted the sequence of events laid out so far)
 

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@rietrot got a point. Nobody reacts like that without getting provoked the only mistake these two "victims" made is thinking the police would protect them. He's actually lucky that they didn't do something way worse with the drama queen in the background. Next time let them pass without recording or trying to do something you might even get a friendly thank you hazard sign.
Yes we should also let the ANC criminals loot us in peace, it's the right thing to do. No wonder SA is so fukked. Some people truly believe they should be allowed to commit their crimes in peace.
 

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Their story is BS. They picked a fight and tried to play speed cop, and got what they deserved.

The guys who did that. The "bad guys" are probably all police or something.

I see blue light brigades on the highway most days. I know not to pick a fight with them and expect the same to happen if I do.

There's nothing as annoying as some private person trying to play speed cop and block people who they perceive to be driving too fast. This time they picked a fight with the wrong people.

It doesn't really matter what they did, they went into the police station for protection and they did not get that. No matter how pissed off you are at someone in traffic you can't pull a gun on them and then assault them INSIDE a police station and think it's fine. This whole thing is inexcusable.

i really hope all of those bastards lose their jobs, or worse.
 
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What I said:

The police are obliged to react and protect the person being assaulted.

But if the person that was assaulted, even in front of them, refuses to lay a charge, they are powerless to charge the perp.

Apologies I missed that opening bit.

BUT, the police can, and are actually also duty bound to act on crimes that they witness, even if the person doesn't lay a charge. The fact that the police continue this bollocks about "we can't do anything until a person lays a charge" needs to be dealt with properly and must not be allowed to continue, its just straight up lazy bullshyte.
 

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That is one police station, there are more than a thousand in SA so don't paint them with the same brush. There's thousands of hard-working dedicated police men and women who put their lives on the line for your ass daily.

Yes, but it is getting worse and worse it is spreading. Bribes, corruption, murder, theft, rape cops have never had a worse reputation than now. And unfortunately it is a deserved one.
 
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@rietrot got a point. Nobody reacts like that without getting provoked the second mistake these two "victims" made is thinking the police would protect them. He's actually lucky that they didn't do something way worse with the drama queen in the background. Next time let them pass without recording or trying to do something you might even get a friendly thank you hazard sign.

Woohoo you are promoting a Mad Max style law. Just hope next time you enter a police station and ask for help you get the rule of law and not the law of the jungle which you are encouraging for.
 

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@rietrot got a point. Nobody reacts like that without getting provoked the second mistake these two "victims" made is thinking the police would protect them. He's actually lucky that they didn't do something way worse with the drama queen in the background. Next time let them pass without recording or trying to do something you might even get a friendly thank you hazard sign.
I give up.
 

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Their story is BS. They picked a fight and tried to play speed cop, and got what they deserved.
I don't think that is the case.

I think what is more likely is the people in the Range Rover wanted to overtake them on a double solid line, and they refused to do it. Best situation like that is to slow down, move over and let the moron write themselves off. When I drive, I drive such to keep as much distance between me and other vehicles as possible. It isn't worth risking the lives of your family to prevent some idiot from breaking the law.

You have to follow the Indian school of driving in South Africa, that is the people in bigger cars have more rights to the road than you.
 

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Yes we should also let the ANC criminals loot us in peace, it's the right thing to do. No wonder SA is so fukked. Some people truly believe they should be allowed to commit their crimes in peace.
Don't make this political.
Woohoo you are promoting a Mad Max style law. Just hope next time you enter a police station and ask for help you get the rule of law and not the law of the jungle which you are encouraging for.
I'm not saying what the police did was right but don't look for trouble when it can be avoided. This is SA so anything is possible best avoid confrontation (stay out of peoples way and mind your own business)
I give up.
Dad is that you? :ROFL:
 

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That is one police station, there are more than a thousand in SA so don't paint them with the same brush. There's thousands of hard-working dedicated police men and women who put their lives on the line for your ass daily. find opportunities to elicit bribes from you daily.
FTFY

This place is ****ed, and you apologists are the reason why.
 

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I don't think that is the case.

I think what is more likely is the people in the Range Rover wanted to overtake them on a double solid line, and they refused to do it. Best situation like that is to slow down, move over and let the moron write themselves off. When I drive, I drive such to keep as much distance between me and other vehicles as possible. It isn't worth risking the lives of your family to prevent some idiot from breaking the law.

You have to follow the Indian school of driving in South Africa, that is the people in bigger cars have more rights to the road than you.

Yeah, I would tend to agree that the people in the convoy (including the Range Rover) were driving like prats. I am not entirely sure if the husband tried to stop them from doing so or anything of the sort or just the fact that they recorded the behaviour was enough to upset the guys in the convoy and then of course things escalated.

For me its all the more reason that dashcams are a must in this country (front as an absolute minimum) these days.

There also now needs to be some significant industry pressure on PSIRA to revoke the registration of the company involved in this incident (Mamra Tactical Response) though. Regardless of what triggered the incident or how it escalated, their behaviour on the road was downright dangerous and should not be allowed to go unpunished by the private security body.
 

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Don't make this political.

I'm not saying what the police did was right but don't look for trouble when it can be avoided. This is SA so anything is possible best avoid confrontation (stay out of peoples way and mind your own business)

Dad is that you? :ROFL:
Do we actually know that? Sometimes trouble comes lookign for you. In January (I thank is was) I drove down that way. Some of the roads are winding and no real place to pass. Yet some idiots come trying to park in your boot etc. One flashed his lights and nearly wrote himself off passing on a blind turn with an oncoming vehicle etc.
 

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That is one police station, there are more than a thousand in SA so don't paint them with the same brush. There's thousands of hard-working dedicated police men and women who put their lives on the line for your ass daily.

The problem is actually not necessarily one police station.. there are a quite a few that have very bad reputations. There are also bad cops in very many good police stations.

I've had an issue with a police officer not wanting to a take statement or open a case because "its too much paperwork" until I threw my toys and started demanding to see the station commander about it, and this was in a relatively decent station that has an acceptable reputation in the area.

So overall there is a professionalism problem in our police force that needs to be addressed as well as a service culture that needs to instilled in a fair number of officers.

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For balance, I've also had police officers go above and beyond a good many times over the years.
 
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