Water crisis in South Africa

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It's not looming, it's here. Just follow the @jhbwater twitter feed
 

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So basically this is just another concrete proof that the current ANC government did absolutely nothing to maintain the infrastructure as they were supposed to after winning the elections way back in 1994. The ANC is really just a pathetic political "bully" IMO by telling their supporters that they are not to blame whenever something goes wrong in current day SA.
 

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So basically this is just another concrete proof that the current ANC government did absolutely nothing to maintain the infrastructure as they were supposed to after winning the elections way back in 1994. The ANC is really just a pathetic political "bully" IMO by telling their supporters that they are not to blame whenever something goes wrong in current day SA.
So how do you explain the water crisis crisis in the Western Cape then?

Yes it's fun to blame the ANC for everything, but sometimes nature plays a part too.
 

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^ and how long were the ANC in charge of WP to do bugger all infrastructure wise ;)
 

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So how do you explain the water crisis crisis in the Western Cape then?

Yes it's fun to blame the ANC for everything, but sometimes nature plays a part too.
Water is a national competence not provincial.
 

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^ and how long were the ANC in charge of WP to do bugger all infrastructure wise ;)
10 years. ANC won Western Cape in 1999 and DA won in 2009. DA has been in control of a lot of cities in the WC since 2006 already.

So dams, piping and all infrastructure failed within a short period of 6-12 years?

The Berg Dam upgrade which provides water to the City of Cape Town was commissioned under the then ANC government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berg_River_Dam

Please, take your blinkers off.
 
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Water is a national competence not provincial.
Our water in the WC comes from local rainfall - not national.

Our local water infrastructure upkeep is also the responsibility of the local provincial or city governments - not national.
 

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Our water in the WC comes from local rainfall - not national.

Our local water infrastructure upkeep is also the responsibility of the local provincial or city governments - not national.
Yeah, do you perhaps have any links to records on what the expenditure on water infrastructure has been in the Western Cape or Cape Town specifically? In Gauteng there were stats published on how much water was lost due to leaks, do you perhaps know of them for the WC? I am genuinely curious.
Our pipes were all recently replaced within the neighborhood after the pipes burst a couple of times within the same section. Haven't had a pipe burst since then.
 

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Yeah, do you perhaps have any links to records on what the expenditure on water infrastructure has been in the Western Cape or Cape Town specifically? In Gauteng there were stats published on how much water was lost due to leaks, do you perhaps know of them for the WC? I am genuinely curious.
Our pipes were all recently replaced within the neighborhood after the pipes burst a couple of times within the same section. Haven't had a pipe burst since then.
I don't know the exact expenditure, but water availability (or lack thereof) cannot be purely blamed on lack of governance (well in the WC at least), a huge part relies on natural rainfall. Some can't grasp that simple fact of natural science.
 

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I don't know the exact expenditure, but water availability (or lack thereof) cannot be purely blamed on lack of governance (well in the WC at least), a huge part relies on natural rainfall. Some can't grasp that simple fact of natural science.
Well, stats in Gauteng can allow one to blame them.
“Of great concern is the fact that water losses are on the increase, up from 35.9 percent in 2010/11, with the main culprits being the three metros, recording losses as follows in 2011/12: City of Joburg lost 206 020 000 kilolitres; Ekurhuleni 133 250 000; and Tshwane 77 290 000 kilolitres,” Nel said.

The worst losses were experienced by Emfuleni, which lost 42 990 000 kilolitres of its available 82 420 00 kilolitres of water.

A total of 480 980 000 kilolitres of water - the equivalent of 2.5 Hartbeespoort dams or 192 392 Olympic size swimming pools - were lost.
2013. http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/gauteng-wastes-r78bn-worth-of-water-1511495
More than half of the water was lost, quite a waste. Drought just emphasizes the issue as well, but forcing residents to conserve water when more than half is lost due to bad infrastructure, it doesn't help much.

Not saying we should all be wasteful with water, quite the opposite, but government also needs to get its act in order.
 

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Also if there is a problem affecting the country like hey there is no water!

It's the responsibility of the National Number one Mr Zuma to say oi boys, fck whatever you are doing.

There is a water crisis hitting our country I want all provinces to escalate and put this as priority one if you need money or support contact me.

Let's work together.


^ that is what I would expect from a leader.
 

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More than half of the water was lost, quite a waste. Drought just emphasizes the issue as well, but forcing residents to conserve water when more than half is lost due to bad infrastructure, it doesn't help much.

Not saying we should all be wasteful with water, quite the opposite, but government also needs to get its act in order.
I don't dispute that at all, but people have to realise that natural rainfall patterns play a roll too.

One would hope that governments can predict and plan, but even with good governance one can't prevent water restrictions.
 

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If you knew the damage that infrastructure takes with just one year of negligence, you'd see that 10 years of negligence is enough to pretty much ruin it. There's no doubt the current drought is the main contributor but one just has to go around all the ANC run districts all over SA and see what effect they have had and still do (running 24hr a day pipes, massive waste through family and friend tenders, etc etc) to add to the current dire situation. You can use your blame game words, I'll just use blinkers for you because obviously they're bloody big ones :rolleyes:
 

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water levels and restrictions should have been taken into account much earlier..


cpt. hindsight to the rescue
 

Sinbad

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Adding distribution without adding capacity is also a major issue. Just like with electricity.
 

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If you knew the damage that infrastructure takes with just one year of negligence, you'd see that 10 years of negligence is enough to pretty much ruin it. There's no doubt the current drought is the main contributor but one just has to go around all the ANC run districts all over SA and see what effect they have had and still do (running 24hr a day pipes, massive waste through family and friend tenders, etc etc) to add to the current dire situation. You can use your blame game words, I'll just use blinkers for you because obviously they're bloody big ones :rolleyes:
So the drought situation in the WC is because of the ANC's rule from 1999 to 2006?

Go back to school.
 
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