Water filtration vacuum cleaners? Do they suck or suck? :D

Zenbaas

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Am looking at buying a vacuum cleaner with a water filtration system Does anyone have experience with these? They go for R700 ATM at GAME.>> Here

Eventually we will probably look at something like a genesis but for now we need something a bit less expensive.

Our current vacuum cleaner just loses sucking power at the slightest hint of dust in the filter and it seems to blow some of the very fine dust back out:sick:

So opinions anyone..?
 

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They work well, I have the old Genesis for years. Need to be replaced by the newer version. Experience is they work well to filter the dust particles and keep the air cleaner whist using it. The old type bag and other filters still pass minute traces of dust.
Only bad part is the smell if the water unit is not cleaned after use, due to bad bacteria growth, when used again before cleaning. To counter that we put lavender bleach in the water. It a bit messy to do the cleaning of the unit but not so much more than cleaning out the dust bag of other units.
Worth it also just for medical reasons like allergies and for small children in house.

The sucking properties depends on the unit. The higher power (Watts) will be better. Also the Type of motor. Let the test a genesis on floor and feel by hand and then let them test the above unit to compare.
 

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They work well, I have the old Genesis for years. Need to be replaced by the newer version. Experience is they work well to filter the dust particles and keep the air cleaner whist using it. The old type bag and other filters still pass minute traces of dust.
Only bad part is the smell if the water unit is not cleaned after use, due to bad bacteria growth, when used again before cleaning. To counter that we put lavender bleach in the water. It a bit messy to do the cleaning of the unit but not so much more than cleaning out the dust bag of other units.
Worth it also just for medical reasons like allergies and for small children in house.

The sucking properties depends on the unit. The higher power (Watts) will be better. Also the Type of motor. Let the test a genesis on floor and feel by hand and then let them test the above unit to compare.
The problem is how do you compare a R5000 vacuum with a R700 one?
Thanks for the tips on the cleaning after and some bleach inside. Will definitely keep that in mind.
 

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They work quite nice!
No filter to clog or clean, no dust in the air...
Got one the Genisis Hydro Vac (the small one)
 

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http://www.makro.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?cat=7158&prod=30839&SKU=000000000000094418|EA

Above is not a water filter but a fairly stong sucker.

Here is the smaller genesis brother R999.00
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They work quite nice!
No filter to clog or clean, no dust in the air...
Got one the Genisis Hydro Vac (the small one)
Thanks for the info. I think I will get one too try and buy the bigger replacement when they become cheaper. Currently R5000.00
 

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Thanks for the info. I think I will get one too try and buy the bigger replacement when they become cheaper. Currently R5000.00
They do look very spiffy i must say. Well i will have them demo both for me. Strongest sucker wins :D The hoover has an added 5 system hepa filter which is perfect for people with allergies. Will have to see on saturday.
 

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I bought the small genesis a couple months ago - my cleaning service has been using the same ones for the past couple of years and they beat the heck out of it.

Change the water regularly (it hones :eek:) otherwise I'm well impressed with it.

EDIT - one of the deciding factors for why I got it was that it would run off my tiny generator in the event of a power failure.
 
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Hepa replacement filters will cost R's but if you need them its worth it.
 

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We're looking at a replacement. HEPA sounds good, but we won't be able to afford the bags.

So we'll look at a water filtration system then.
 

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We're looking at a replacement. HEPA sounds good, but we won't be able to afford the bags.

So we'll look at a water filtration system then.
Well that one in my original post is a water filtration vacuum cleaner with a HEPA filter system..?:confused: I will see and report back.....
 

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I have the small genesis as well - it's brilliant.

Not only do you have the fun of seeing how much you've vacuumed up (it's strangely rewarding!), it also seems to keep the floors cleaner - I have wood laminate flooring, and they seem to get dusty less frequently when using the genesis than any other vacuum cleaner.

It's one of the best things I've ever bought :)
 

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I have the small genesis as well - it's brilliant.

Not only do you have the fun of seeing how much you've vacuumed up (it's strangely rewarding!), it also seems to keep the floors cleaner - I have wood laminate flooring, and they seem to get dusty less frequently when using the genesis than any other vacuum cleaner.

It's one of the best things I've ever bought :)
How does it filter the air? Is it a water filtration unit like its big brother or does it use the cyclonic filtration?
 

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How does it filter the air? Is it a water filtration unit like its big brother or does it use the cyclonic filtration?
Not clear but apparently there is also a water filter stage, similar to the big brother

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I will wait for CAthJ or Bwana to confirm tho.
 
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It uses a cyclonic system, but also water filtration...

Basically the big particles go into a plastic container (which you just empty out when you're done, or when it gets too full - you can rinse it out as well, if it gets too dusty). The smaller dust particles get trapped in the water filter.

I empty the water bit every time I finish using it, so I don't have problems with it smelling nasty. I used to hate vacuuming and attempting to clean & empty the vacuum bag - it was always a mission, never really came clean, and just made more dust all over the place. This one is just soooo much easier and cleaner.

It's nice, because it works as a wet & dry vacuum cleaner, which is handy at times.
 

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It uses a cyclonic system, but also water filtration...

Basically the big particles go into a plastic container (which you just empty out when you're done, or when it gets too full - you can rinse it out as well, if it gets too dusty). The smaller dust particles get trapped in the water filter.

I empty the water bit every time I finish using it, so I don't have problems with it smelling nasty. I used to hate vacuuming and attempting to clean & empty the vacuum bag - it was always a mission, never really came clean, and just made more dust all over the place. This one is just soooo much easier and cleaner.

It's nice, because it works as a wet & dry vacuum cleaner, which is handy at times.
Sold :D Me and the misses are off tomorrow for some shopping.
 

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We use the little Genesis and it works well, my only complaint is that it is damn noisy. Your neighbors will all know when you are using it.
 

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We use the little Genesis and it works well, my only complaint is that it is damn noisy. Your neighbors will all know when you are using it.
My one that i have now rivals the sound barrier :D So thats fine, im not planning to vacuum for hours on end....and i can get some revenge for all the noise they make:eek: :D
 
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